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  • #31
    Re: new Classes revealed! PLD, DRK, RNG, BLM, WHM, DRG!!!!

    Originally posted by Etra View Post
    The power leveling thing that's going on makes me not want to play at all anymore. Just seems like early to mid-game content is utterly pointless now.

    Example: 110,000 Exp Per Hour. 1-50 in a day. Nope. Not Broken..
    I didn't know about the PL availability but it's dumb. They need to remove that. If they put in a beret leveling system (like in FFXI) then a friend can help another friend (which was the reason Yoshi-P gave in response to the concerns) This wouldn't be an issue normally but they removed weekly exp caps so this is now a big problem.

    I don't think early to mid-game is important anyway once the title has matured (i.e., trivializing 1-70 in WoW, as an example) but it's too early to do away with it completely and there's just not enough end game content to satisfy players (the only end game content I know about is getting everything to 50)

    That said, I don't see those kinds of gains, because I'm not in one of those "hunting parties", so this is doubly insulting to me, since they said they were not going to hand the game on a silver platter to those "hard core elites with a hard core group" type of players.

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    • #32
      Re: new Classes revealed! PLD, DRK, RNG, BLM, WHM, DRG!!!!

      I think once they realize the effects, they'll simply cap experience per kill, like in FFXI. It's a simple system, and allowed power leveling without overpowering it. It became somewhat of an issue, but not because people were boosted to cap in a single day.

      Personally, from a completely new account, I could never get my first job to thirty in less than three months.

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      • #33
        Re: new Classes revealed! PLD, DRK, RNG, BLM, WHM, DRG!!!!

        Originally posted by DakAttack View Post
        Personally, from a completely new account, I could never get my first job to thirty in less than three months.
        I haven't gone over 40 yet and it's been a year ...

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        • #34
          Re: new Classes revealed! PLD, DRK, RNG, BLM, WHM, DRG!!!!

          If they don't fix the issue and rollback characters that did use the PL exploit, I'm not even going to bother with the game. I'll just wait for Dungeon Defenders next week and then hop over to Old Republic when it launches.
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          • #35
            Re: new Classes revealed! PLD, DRK, RNG, BLM, WHM, DRG!!!!

            Originally posted by Etra View Post
            If they don't fix the issue and rollback characters that did use the PL exploit, I'm not even going to bother with the game. I'll just wait for Dungeon Defenders next week and then hop over to Old Republic when it launches.
            Lmk how you like Old Republic. In the meantime, I'm getting my PS3 unit (don't laugh at me) once Sony sorts out my order and I should get it before the end of the month. That's like pure evil as a door to more games but at least I'll get variety.

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            • #36
              Re: new Classes revealed! PLD, DRK, RNG, BLM, WHM, DRG!!!!

              About the powerleveling, it doesnt bother me much. Doesn't affect me really. I agree with Yoshi-P where if friends want to help eachother then let them. I wouldnt have done this the way he did, only because it promotes players that dont know what the hell theyre doing later on. Luckily those guys will get bored soon and probably end up quitting.

              There's so many quests to do now that I'm always having that overwhelming feeling of unfinished tasks that I like so much in MMOs (when theyre good), I wouldnt miss those quests throughout my experience for standing around looking at someone killing mobs for me, that is dead boring.

              I do hope Yoshi-P does something about the power leveling though, not to the point of abolishing it however.
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              • #37
                Re: new Classes revealed! PLD, DRK, RNG, BLM, WHM, DRG!!!!

                Originally posted by Balfree View Post
                About the powerleveling, it doesnt bother me much. Doesn't affect me really. I agree with Yoshi-P where if friends want to help eachother then let them. I wouldnt have done this the way he did, only because it promotes players that dont know what the hell theyre doing later on. Luckily those guys will get bored soon and probably end up quitting.

                There's so many quests to do now that I'm always having that overwhelming feeling of unfinished tasks that I like so much in MMOs (when theyre good), I wouldnt miss those quests throughout my experience for standing around looking at someone killing mobs for me, that is dead boring.

                I do hope Yoshi-P does something about the power leveling though, not to the point of abolishing it however.
                I would generally agree with you on the PL matter, if it were not for the fact that RMT would be able to flood every server with level-cap characters that will farm these instances and any new instances right away even if SE was good about banning every single one of those accounts. That kind of activity will diminish the economy and leave too much of it in their hands and it will be FFXI all over again (not necessarily the exact same results but highly damaging all the same)

                I do enjoy the questing and I also feel like there's something for me to do and that I'm not twiddling my thumb waiting for leve reset.

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                • #38
                  Re: new Classes revealed! PLD, DRK, RNG, BLM, WHM, DRG!!!!

                  Why on earth would RMT bother with FFXIV?

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                  • #39
                    Re: new Classes revealed! PLD, DRK, RNG, BLM, WHM, DRG!!!!

                    Originally posted by Murphie View Post
                    Why on earth would RMT bother with FFXIV?
                    There's that one guy who might buy some gil.

                    Reality - They have the time anyway, get ahead of the rush of players, if there ever is one.
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                    • #40
                      Re: new Classes revealed! PLD, DRK, RNG, BLM, WHM, DRG!!!!

                      Originally posted by Mhurron View Post
                      There's that one guy who might buy some gil.

                      Reality - They have the time anyway, get ahead of the rush of players, if there ever is one.
                      Especially considering the game is basically F2P. No monthly sub = easy access to mass accounts.
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                      • #41
                        Re: new Classes revealed! PLD, DRK, RNG, BLM, WHM, DRG!!!!

                        Yeah, but you have to keep in mind that these companies have to pay their employees (pennies) for the work they do. So if there aren't BUYERS then why the hell would they bother farming it? Unless as Mhurron stated it's sort of a risky investment based on possible future gains.

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                        • #42
                          Re: new Classes revealed! PLD, DRK, RNG, BLM, WHM, DRG!!!!

                          Ok everywan, relax:

                          Power-leveling is absolutely BROKEN - Page 87

                          This is Yoshida, the producer/director.

                          I’m sorry that this is late, but I would like to add a few points.

                          Power leveling is viewed very differently from player to player, and I still stand by my stance that it should be allowed to a certain extent to bridge the gap between long-time players and newer players. This is because I see it as an act of volunteering, in which the power leveling players are willing to give up their time to help out their friends or family members.

                          We expected the extent of power leveling to become evident with the removal of the claim system, but we didn’t foresee the extent to which low level players can sit AFK, while in the same party with a much higher level character fighting monsters, without the level differences between the players being applied to the incoming EXP.

                          The calculations for gained EXP have been fundamentally changed in patch 1.19, which has made this issue more difficult to handle. We considered issuing an emergency maintenance to address this, but the release of patch 1.19a is very quickly approaching, so we have decided to fix the issue in patch 1.19a.

                          I’m sorry for the confusion that this has caused.
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                          • #43
                            Re: new Classes revealed! PLD, DRK, RNG, BLM, WHM, DRG!!!!

                            WOOHOO!
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                            ZM: Done
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                            Wotg: Complete the quests already and I'll start

                            Originally posted by Etra
                            This thread brought to you by Malacite's lack of understanding.

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                            • #44
                              Re: new Classes revealed! PLD, DRK, RNG, BLM, WHM, DRG!!!!

                              Originally posted by Murphie View Post
                              Yeah, but you have to keep in mind that these companies have to pay their employees (pennies) for the work they do. So if there aren't BUYERS then why the hell would they bother farming it? Unless as Mhurron stated it's sort of a risky investment based on possible future gains.
                              Your latter statement is probably what fuels RMT interests in the game. Line up several hundred accounts with capped characters before the game goes into pay-to-play mode and then deactivate the accounts and sell them when appropriate. They still need the initial investment ($50 for each account) so that isn't completely free for them.

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                              • #45
                                Re: new Classes revealed! PLD, DRK, RNG, BLM, WHM, DRG!!!!

                                Originally posted by Aeni View Post
                                Your latter statement is probably what fuels RMT interests in the game. Line up several hundred accounts with capped characters before the game goes into pay-to-play mode and then deactivate the accounts and sell them when appropriate. They still need the initial investment ($50 for each account) so that isn't completely free for them.
                                You can buy the game for $20 now.

                                And I'm still annoyed with it. Instead of fixing a game breaking (yes, I said it) exploit asap, they're waiting to patch it. Oh, sure, it's fine that some players will have all jobs capped and access to every ability after one week, instead of a few months. Yeah, that's totally fine.
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