Thread: Battle Reform: Auto-Attack (06/30/2011)

[Firewind]

Re: Thread: Battle Reform: Auto-Attack (06/30/2011)

Because anyone who suggests that an archer should be able to use thier daggers in combat is WoW

[DakAttack]

Re: Thread: Battle Reform: Auto-Attack (06/30/2011)

Because anyone who suggests that an archer should be able to use thier daggers in combat is WoW

For them to have access to melee weapons and abilities with stuns/snares, yea, that's WoW. It's called a Hunter.

[Malacite]

Re: Thread: Battle Reform: Auto-Attack (06/30/2011)

For them to have access to melee weapons and abilities with stuns/snares, yea, that's WoW. It's called a Hunter.

Yes, because realistically, smashing things with your bare fists as an Archer is just oh so wonderful an idea.


This is beyond bullshit. So everyone else gets auto-attack to make things simpler, but RNG & Mages get shafted. OK then. So we're right back to /ra spam, awesome SE.


I'm done with 14 now. Fuck it. One of the few things I really liked about it was the ranged class was actually GOOD this time around. They just went and killed that completely and don't none of you even fucking try to argue otherwise because we all know how lopsided things are for RNG in XI because of how overpowered Haste is.

[DakAttack]

Re: Thread: Battle Reform: Auto-Attack (06/30/2011)

If you want to attack from melee range DON'T BE AN ARCHER.

PROBLEM SOLVED.

[Malacite]

Re: Thread: Battle Reform: Auto-Attack (06/30/2011)

Troll harder


http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRDoint_Blank_Shot


http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Close_C...283.5e_Feat%29


http://wow.joystiq.com/2009/02/06/bi...-in-patch-3-1/



Seriously are they even trying anymore? D&D got it right and that game predates everything.

[Raydeus]

Re: Thread: Battle Reform: Auto-Attack (06/30/2011)

At least XIV is moving more towards XI's combat system now. Before the auto-attack changes a proper brawler system (again like DCUO) would've worked 100 times better for the game.

But anyway, if you can switch styles on the fly or don't have ranged damage/acc affected by distance then there wouldn't be any need for melee weapons as an archer except for the emergency blunt hit with the bow and abilities like that for close combat/no ammo situations.

So, how does it work?

[DakAttack]

Re: Thread: Battle Reform: Auto-Attack (06/30/2011)

Troll harder


SRDoint Blank Shot - D&D Wiki


Close Combat Shot (3.5e Feat) - D&D Wiki


Big changes for Hunters in patch 3.1



Seriously are they even trying anymore? D&D got it right and that game predates everything.

I guess I'm a troll because I'm using logic. What has the internet come to....

[Firewind]

Re: Thread: Battle Reform: Auto-Attack (06/30/2011)

If you want to attack from melee range DON'T BE AN ARCHER.

PROBLEM SOLVED.

Because archers clearly aren't able to fight in a protracted melee

[Malacite]

Re: Thread: Battle Reform: Auto-Attack (06/30/2011)

[Firewind]

Re: Thread: Battle Reform: Auto-Attack (06/30/2011)

Ranger - FFXIclopedia, the Final Fantasy XI wiki - Characters, items, jobs, and more
Shadowbind - FFXIclopedia, the Final Fantasy XI wiki - Characters, items, jobs, and more

But Rangers already had access to a way of rooting an enemy in place anyway.

So according to Dak FFXI is WoW even though it predates WoW by several years.

[DakAttack]

Re: Thread: Battle Reform: Auto-Attack (06/30/2011)

Ranger - FFXIclopedia, the Final Fantasy XI wiki - Characters, items, jobs, and more
Shadowbind - FFXIclopedia, the Final Fantasy XI wiki - Characters, items, jobs, and more

But Rangers already had access to a way of rooting an enemy in place anyway.

So according to Dak FFXI is WoW even though it predates WoW by several years.

Shadowbind is RANGED ATTACK.

Have you ever played WoW?

[Firewind]

Re: Thread: Battle Reform: Auto-Attack (06/30/2011)

It can be used at melee range and Rangers are still able to attack with their melee weapons. Rangers are also able to use melee weapon skills including the following:

Shadowstitch - FFXIclopedia, the Final Fantasy XI wiki - Characters, items, jobs, and more - Melee Root
Flat Blade - FFXIclopedia, the Final Fantasy XI wiki - Characters, items, jobs, and more - Melee Stun
Brainshaker - FFXIclopedia, the Final Fantasy XI wiki - Characters, items, jobs, and more - Melee Stun
Smash Axe - FFXIclopedia, the Final Fantasy XI wiki - Characters, items, jobs, and more - Melee Stun

The following are also available to Rangers via subjob:

Gravity - FFXIclopedia, the Final Fantasy XI wiki - Characters, items, jobs, and more - Ranged Snare
Bind - FFXIclopedia, the Final Fantasy XI wiki - Characters, items, jobs, and more - Ranged Root
Stun - FFXIclopedia, the Final Fantasy XI wiki - Characters, items, jobs, and more - Ranged Stun
Desperate Flourish - FFXIclopedia, the Final Fantasy XI wiki - Characters, items, jobs, and more - Melee Snare
Violent Flourish - FFXIclopedia, the Final Fantasy XI wiki - Characters, items, jobs, and more - Melee Stun
Mysterious Light - FFXIclopedia, the Final Fantasy XI wiki - Characters, items, jobs, and more - Ranged Snare
Head Butt - FFXIclopedia, the Final Fantasy XI wiki - Characters, items, jobs, and more - Ranged Stun
Sleep Series - Essentially functions as a Ranged Stun/Disorientate
Silence/Chaotic Eye - Ranged Silence

Yes I played WoW, I have a Rogue and Paladin both at Lv85 so I played (though off and on) until recently. I still have no idea what the fuck your arguement is about other than "lol WoW"

Ranged Attackers have always had access to melee weapons or at the very least some sort of melee attack in RPGs. FFXIV is one of the few RPGs that make the ranged class completely unable to use a melee attack.

Troll harder please.

[Yellow Mage]

Re: Thread: Battle Reform: Auto-Attack (06/30/2011)

People would then complain that because of auto attack they cant switch ammo quick enough to launch a heavy strike with that special attack...

People would eventually stop complaining. They'd instead start using Spellcast, and call everybody who didn't a gimp.

[DakAttack]

Re: Thread: Battle Reform: Auto-Attack (06/30/2011)

It can be used at melee range and Rangers are still able to attack with their melee weapons. Rangers are also able to use melee weapon skills including the following:

Shadowstitch - FFXIclopedia, the Final Fantasy XI wiki - Characters, items, jobs, and more - Melee Root
Flat Blade - FFXIclopedia, the Final Fantasy XI wiki - Characters, items, jobs, and more - Melee Stun
Brainshaker - FFXIclopedia, the Final Fantasy XI wiki - Characters, items, jobs, and more - Melee Stun
Smash Axe - FFXIclopedia, the Final Fantasy XI wiki - Characters, items, jobs, and more - Melee Stun

The following are also available to Rangers via subjob:

Gravity - FFXIclopedia, the Final Fantasy XI wiki - Characters, items, jobs, and more - Ranged Snare
Bind - FFXIclopedia, the Final Fantasy XI wiki - Characters, items, jobs, and more - Ranged Root
Stun - FFXIclopedia, the Final Fantasy XI wiki - Characters, items, jobs, and more - Ranged Stun
Desperate Flourish - FFXIclopedia, the Final Fantasy XI wiki - Characters, items, jobs, and more - Melee Snare
Violent Flourish - FFXIclopedia, the Final Fantasy XI wiki - Characters, items, jobs, and more - Melee Stun
Mysterious Light - FFXIclopedia, the Final Fantasy XI wiki - Characters, items, jobs, and more - Ranged Snare
Head Butt - FFXIclopedia, the Final Fantasy XI wiki - Characters, items, jobs, and more - Ranged Stun
Sleep Series - Essentially functions as a Ranged Stun/Disorientate
Silence/Chaotic Eye - Ranged Silence

Yes I played WoW, I have a Rogue and Paladin both at Lv85 so I played (though off and on) until recently. I still have no idea what the fuck your arguement is about other than "lol WoW"

Ranged Attackers have always had access to melee weapons or at the very least some sort of melee attack in RPGs. FFXIV is one of the few RPGs that make the ranged class completely unable to use a melee attack.

Troll harder please.

There's really no way to make things easier for you to understand. You prefer the play styles of both the Ranger and Hunter, and want to shoehorn that into the Archer. It doesn't work like that, because the job wasn't designed like that, and the game wasn't built like that. They already have their hands full with turning a beta-quality game into a money maker, they don't need to make risky changes to the programming because kids want an easy mode. There are already games that cater to that; go play them instead.

[Firewind]

Re: Thread: Battle Reform: Auto-Attack (06/30/2011)

And where exactly did you get all of that from, I'm curious. There's not that much space between the lines of each post on these forums y'know.