Letter from the Producer, X (05/20/2011)

[Malacite]

Re: Letter from the Producer, X (05/20/2011)

It doesn't really matter how long it's been or how much it's changed. The game had its chance to make a good impression and it failed so miserably that anyone most people who witnessed it concluded that whatever was going on in the design room was so horribly mucked up and foul that it would be better to simply avoid the game rather than prolong the distasteful experience in the hope that it would somehow improve. The beta was just that bad.

In what universe is this even remotely true?

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Also, text bolded for sheer ignorance.

[Grizzlebeard]

Re: Letter from the Producer, X (05/20/2011)

In MMO gaming, if you make a bad first impression at launch, you get no second chances or comebacks. This game, regardless of what you chose to believe, is dead and buried. No MMO to date has tanked at launch and then turned it around anywhere down the line. You can look at EQ2, Vanguard, AoC, LoTR, Warhammer, DDO, and Tabula Rasa as examples of this.

So, yeah, that'd be this universe.

[cidbahamut]

Re: Letter from the Producer, X (05/20/2011)

I wouldn't touch FFXIV with a ten foot pole based on how fucking awful it was in beta and I'll say as much to anyone who brings the game up in conversation. Other people will do the same. What do you think that does for the game's chances of survival Mal?

[Kailea]

Re: Letter from the Producer, X (05/20/2011)

I wouldn't touch FFXIV with a ten foot pole based on how fucking awful it was in beta and I'll say as much to anyone who brings the game up in conversation. Other people will do the same. What do you think that does for the game's chances of survival Mal?

Then that just shows your and others ignorance, by Sept-Oct the game will be very different from the way it was back in beta, and even launch. If you still base a game off it's beta from almost a year ago, then I am sorry but you fail.

I left the game back in Oct after beta was over and game went retail, because I too was like "the hell is this crap" now fast forward to Apr and I try it again after checking into it again, and I am glad I came back, the game is alot better. I am taking it slow and casual at the moment, just crafting and doing little things, because major parts of the game are still changing.

Yes the game still needs work, hell it was released a year before it should have been, there is a new director over the game that seems to be thinking more level headed then the previous one and as far as I am concerned FFXIV is still in beta.
By the time the PS3 version is released, it will be an almost completely different game in most aspects.

[DakAttack]

Re: Letter from the Producer, X (05/20/2011)

In MMO gaming, if you make a bad first impression at launch, you get no second chances or comebacks. This game, regardless of what you chose to believe, is dead and buried. No MMO to date has tanked at launch and then turned it around anywhere down the line. You can look at EQ2, Vanguard, AoC, LoTR, Warhammer, DDO, and Tabula Rasa as examples of this.

So, yeah, that'd be this universe.

You named a bunch of bad games as if they had no subscribers for any reason other than they were bad games. If I recall, both LoTR and DDO increased their player-base by providing free-to-play subscription models, and are both bringing in more money than they were before the change.

FFXIV isn't dead, and it's definitely not buried. Look at FFXI and the people still clinging to that game. If push comes to shove, SE can bump off FFXI and retain a portion of the players that trade up to FFXIV. It wouldn't be ideal, but they clearly envisioned a more vibrant and player-run economy, so it that influx of players might be just what they need to give the game a kick-start.

[cidbahamut]

Re: Letter from the Producer, X (05/20/2011)

Then that just shows your and others ignorance, by Sept-Oct the game will be very different from the way it was back in beta, and even launch. If you still base a game off it's beta from almost a year ago, then I am sorry but you fail.

Not really. I just saw incredibly bad game design and decided not to reward it with my money. If it can actually be fixed they'd be better off scrapping FFXIV altogether and releasing whatever they come up with under a new name.

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If push comes to shove, SE can bump off FFXI and retain a portion of the players that trade up to FFXIV.

This is absolutely absurd logic, not to mention bad business practice.

[DakAttack]

Re: Letter from the Producer, X (05/20/2011)

This is absolutely absurd logic, not to mention bad business practice.

What's absurd is this tantrum you're throwing.

[cidbahamut]

Re: Letter from the Producer, X (05/20/2011)

Thanks Dak, I needed a good laugh.

[Taskmage]

Re: Letter from the Producer, X (05/20/2011)

I love how we can have a simple difference of opinion like this without immediately resorting to calling eachother stupid, brain-dead, ignorant, tantrum-throwing, etc.

[DakAttack]

Re: Letter from the Producer, X (05/20/2011)

I love how we can have a simple difference of opinion like this without immediately resorting to calling eachother stupid, brain-dead, ignorant, tantrum-throwing, etc.

I love how we have admins that troll.

Wikipedia:

A tantrum or temper tantrum is an emotional outburst, usually associated with children or those in emotional distress, that is typically characterized by stubbornness, crying, screaming, defiance, angry ranting, a resistance to attempts at pacification and, at some cases, hitting.

• Emotional: Check!
• Stubbornness: Check!
• Crying: Probably.
• Screaming: Unknown.
• Defiance: N/A
• Angry Ranting: DOUBLE CHECK.

[Mhurron]

Re: Letter from the Producer, X (05/20/2011)

I love how we have admins that troll.

I love how you can't tell a subtle shut the fuck up and behave from a troll.

[DakAttack]

Re: Letter from the Producer, X (05/20/2011)

I love how you can't tell a subtle shut the fuck up and behave from a troll.

How am I misbehaving?

[Mhurron]

Re: Letter from the Producer, X (05/20/2011)

How am I misbehaving?

4. NO FLAMING! Keep the criticisms constructive.
5. Treat each other as you'd want to be treated.

Dumbass.

[DakAttack]

Re: Letter from the Producer, X (05/20/2011)

4. NO FLAMING! Keep the criticisms constructive.
5. Treat each other as you'd want to be treated.

Dumbass.

I'm not flaming, and I treat others as they treat me. If you want to be childish, I'll can be childish. If you want to be mature, I can be mature. If you want to be Aks, I can be obnoxious and pity myself. If you want to be Murphie, I can be spiteful and dramatic. If you want to be Mhurron, I can be holier than thou and disrespectful. Really, the list goes on.

[Taskmage]

Re: Letter from the Producer, X (05/20/2011)

I'll say it again more clearly. Stop with the personal insults. This means everyone. Someone flaming you is not an excuse for flaming them.