FFXIV gets a 4.0 from Gamespot and other reviews & hilarious discoveries about FFXIV

[Icemage]

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Personally, I found the Kotaku review very watered down. Read his 4 part blog that he made while playing the game and you'll understand why I say that.

In fairness, he only made it to level 19. However, with that said, that was a month's worth of progress from someone who is no stranger to MMORPGs. Fahey's my favorite contributor at Kotaku, and while he's not the most skilled player EVAR, I trust many of his opinions because he's a lifelong otaku and a habitual gamer - and is the only one of the crew there that really "gets" how MMORPGs work.

Had the game been more appealing I'm sure he'd have made more progress. But it's not, so he did his due diligence and trudged through it - and that's a LOT more slack than any other reviewers are cutting the game. And even there the review is very negative, and reflects most of the opinions in this thread: FFXIV is currently an incomplete and flawed creation, and probably shouldn't have been launched in its current state just to beat the holiday rush and Cataclysm to market.


Icemage

[TheGrandMom]

Re: FFXIV gets a 4.0 from Gamespot

In fairness, he only made it to level 19. However, with that said, that was a month's worth of progress from someone who is no stranger to MMORPGs. Fahey's my favorite contributor at Kotaku, and while he's not the most skilled player EVAR, I trust many of his opinions because he's a lifelong otaku and a habitual gamer - and is the only one of the crew there that really "gets" how MMORPGs work.

I think he could have been more descriptive. He had many more issues with the game than his review reflected. I was following his blog and he made some very good observations in it that I thought should have been carried over to the final review. It just seems that, for some reason, the review was incomplete.

[Yellow Mage]

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It just seems that, for some reason, the review was incomplete.

JUST LIKE THIS GAME AMIRITE?!?

[Aksannyi]

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Ahahahahahahaha.

You're the second person to make me burst out in a fit of laughter today. Maybe I'm being slowly poisoned through the vents and I never noticed before because I've never been home this many days in a row. O.o

[Icemage]

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I think he could have been more descriptive. He had many more issues with the game than his review reflected. I was following his blog and he made some very good observations in it that I thought should have been carried over to the final review. It just seems that, for some reason, the review was incomplete.

Well, carrying them all over would have made the overall review topheavy and overly long. And honestly the flaws he mentions are probably the most important ones (UI / menu design woes, incomplete content, etc.) at this time. If someone's seriously interested, he does mention the 4-part review process and alludes to it if they really want all the in-the-trenches detail.

Plus I think the review strikes the right balance; FFXIV is indeed a very flawed game, but it does have some interesting elements buried in the sludge, and they could turn it into a well-crafted product with enough effort. I think that's precisely the right stance to take on the game; not from Square-Enix's point of view perhaps, but from the consumer's point of view surely.


Icemage

[Raydeus]

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He really spared SE's life there.

[Aeni]

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http://tinyurl.com/26vl4pw

A lot of ... unhappy Japanese customers.

Stole this from another website:

From a JP gaming magazine:

"What we're seeing from some XIV players is the equivalent of battered spouse syndrome. They've been abused by SE for the better part of a decade, complaining loudly about it every step of the way, but when SE does it again and someone else points it out, they rush to the abusive spouse's defense."

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FF14のサービス開始の発表を受け、LS(パーティとは別で、ゲーム内での集まりのようなもの)でも、それぞれが「14も一緒にやろう」というように話し合っていましたが、
私がOβに当選したのをきっかけに、FF14の内容が顕になってくるにつれ、他メンバーの「やらないかも…」という発言が出始めました。

まずFF11で出来ていたことが出来ていない。退化しています。
よく「FF11もβの時には…」なんて発言がありますが、もうそういうレベルではありません。
現在のFF11で出来ている仕様上のことやUI面などができていません。顕著なところで、チャットのし辛さ、見難さ。アイテムのソートがないなど。

次に運営側の殿様営æ¥ã€‚ユーザーから「こういうことがあったので、調整して欲しい」という意見があっても全く聞く耳を持たず、
後々になって結局「やったらBAN対象」というのは、FF11時代からもありましたが、FF14でも健在です。
また今回のCE(コレクターズエディション)や通常版購入者、FF11継続プレイヤーへ渡されるアイテムなども、実際入手したら広告のものと全く仕様が異なっていました。
例に、FF11継続プレイヤーへ渡されるアイテム、「エルメスの靴」などは、いままで宣伝されてきたものは「移動速度上昇」のみ表記されていましたが、実際には一日15分程度しか効果が発揮されず、
ゲーム内でも、アイテム欄や装備する際などにもその詳細は記載されておらず、ただ装備した時に突然「移動速度上昇」の効果が付加され、突然切れます。

他にも、FF11プレイヤーなら分かることだと思いますが、いままで通りの運営側からのé ã”なしの調整、仕様変更がなされ、今回は心底呆れてしまいました。
最近での出来事としまして、日本語版の全てのテã‚ストが漢å—表記にされたことなどが、それに当たります。
開発曰く「プレイヤーからのフィードバックを受けæ¢ã‚ã€åæ˜ ã•ã›ãŸçµæžœã€ã¨è¨€ã†ã“とですが、実際にはそのようなフィードバックは一切なく、それについて言及すると
「開発側の趣味」という返ç”が返ってきたのは、ごå˜ã˜ã®æ–¹ã‚‚多いことと思います。
よもや「チョコボ」を「馬鳥」という名前で見る日がくるとは、誰が思いましょうか。

FF11では、サービス開始から8年目を迎え、やっとプレイヤーが遊びやすいよう様々な調整がされてきましたが、FF14でも再び同じようなことを繰り返すのかと思うと、続けていく気がおきません。

また開発当初の「多人数対多人数(通常のmobとの戦闘)」という発言も全くの嘘で、
結局1人or複数人で、1匹の敵もしくは3匹程度の敵と戦うしかできません。
サーバーの収容人数の「十数万人は耐えられる」という発言も全くの嘘で、数万人程度でダウンしました。
βの時は「これからきっとよくなる」という淡い期待もありましたが、このような形で製品版として出てしまうとは、本当に残念です

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When we first heard about the FF14 release, my linkshell (like a big in-game party, but different) decided to all play together, but after experiencing the incredibly scant content available in open beta, a number of people started to say they might not play.

First of all, the most basic FF11 functionality isn't there. This is a step backwards. A lot of people are saying "Well, FF11 had problems in beta as well," but this is on a completely different level. Simple things that worked in FF11 like functional UI are missing. The most striking examples are that chat doesn't even work correctly, not to mention something like item sorting.

Secondly, it's the company management. Just like with the FFXI release, When (Japanese) users have publicly reported bugs, saying "We don't think this is working right, could you please investigate?", the company doesn't listen and instead, some time later, the user ends up banned. Once again buyers of the collector's edition and those who linked characters from FF11 were promised special items that appear to not be working correctly. For example, the item that was given to FF11 players, Hermes Boots, were said to increase movement speed on users, but it seems they only work for 15 minutes, which isn't explained anywhere in the in-game item stats or description, and instead simply cuts out the effect without notice once you've equipped them.

Players of FF11 are probably familiar with this, but the tendency for the company to completely ignore the feedback of its users is absolutely shocking. As proof, look at the text included in the Japanese version of the game, and the usage of Chinese characters. During development they said "We're listening to customer feedback and adjusting the game accordingly," but not a single piece of that feedback has made it into the release, and I'm sure many feel they were wasting their time. Who would have thought we'd see the day when "Chocobos" actually became "Horse Birds?"

After nearly eight years, FF11 has finally been tweaked and fixed to the point that people can have fun, but after seeing all of the exact same mistakes repeated in FF14, I have no interest in going through it again.

Promises like "legions of players versus legions of mobs" have turned out to be a complete lie, and instead all we can do is one or several players fighting one or several mobs. The promise that one server can support several hundred thousand users has also turned out to be a lie, with servers crashing before they even reach ten thousand. The hope since beta was that it would all be fixed soon, but the fact we've gone straight to production with the game still in this shape is incredibly disappointing.

[Raydeus]

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馬鳥? For real? o_O;

It's like Marvel suddenly calling Spiderman "The Tarantula-geek" instead.

Ok, maybe there's a chance they may not be back after beta is over and the PS3 version is released. <_<;

[Malacite]

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Hey check it out, I found SE's new company logo:

OMG it was way bigger than I thought so here's a spoiler box lol

[IMG][/IMG]

[Raydeus]

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I don't think it's big enough.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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"What we're seeing from some XIV players is the equivalent of battered spouse syndrome. They've been abused by SE for the better part of a decade, complaining loudly about it every step of the way, but when SE does it again and someone else points it out, they rush to the abusive spouse's defense."

Um, this is every MMORPG ever in a nutshell.

Any MMO Forum: bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch
After someone criticizes said MMO: HOW DARE YOU, THE GAME TREATS ME WELL!

Lather
Rinse
Repeat

Additionally you're posting wild conspiracy theories now? Seriously? SE banning honest beta testers? Whatever.

I never believe the banned, sorry.

Also:

http://www.ffxionline.com/forums/gen...cing-info.html

Some of you will look back at this thread, see what idiots you were being at the time and /facepalm. I kinda saw the red flag thrown up around FFXIV back here. I'm not here to defend SE so much as just say "I told you so."

[Aeni]

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Additionally you're posting wild conspiracy theories now? Seriously? SE banning honest beta testers? Whatever.

Are you blind? That was what a Japanese player posted and the translation is underneath it. I took it from another website. It's not my comments.

[Aksannyi]

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I never believe the banned, sorry.

-.-

Because SE has a great track record with that, amirite? Meanwhile, my still perfectly valid credit card is probably not even usable for XIV if I even tried, thanks to a ridiculous ban based simply on the fact that I changed cards more than twice over the course of five years. (And yes, that's the official reason. "Irregular credit card use," I believe it was. Call me an ass, but if I'd been banned for anything else, I wouldn't bitch about it, because I'd have more than likely deserved it.)

While it's true that a lot of people who are banned are legitimately tardfucks and deserve it, you can't throw every banned person into the same goddamn hat. And again, based on SE's track record with banning people with little rhyme or reason, I'm inclined to give these people the benefit of the doubt.

[Grizzlebeard]

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Are you blind? That was what a Japanese player posted and the translation is underneath it. I took it from another website. It's not my comments.

Slap him on ignore and don't allow yourself to be trolled by his moronic posts. He neither plays FFXI or FFXIV yet somehow deludes himself into believing his is the only correct opinion. It's only a shame ignore doesn't work on quoted posts, every now and again I get to see snippets of him going full retard.

[Absentia]

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It's still better than FFXI.