FFXIV gets a 4.0 from Gamespot and other reviews & hilarious discoveries about FFXIV

[Kailea]

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I'll just leave this right here.

Final Fantasy XIV Online Review (PC) - PC Games - CNET Reviews

(lolcopypasta)

Wow.... that can not count as a real review.... its a copy and paste -.-

[Paradigm777]

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It's the same guy. He just posted it on Gamespot first.

[Malacite]

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I seriously have to wonder if this is Komoto's fault... let's remember that with XI, Tanaka was the director. This time around he's the producer, Komoto is in charge, which means he gets the final say in everything. They should both know better, but I still can't help but wonder if things would be just a bit better if Tanaka san was still in charge.


Well, at least Today's update fixed several nuisances, and next week's update will bring the Market Ward adjustments.

[TheGrandMom]

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Ummmm....reading is good....it states right above the Cnet review:

"GAMESPOT EDITORS' REVIEW"

[Aeni]

Re: FFXIV gets a 4.0 from Gamespot

Ummmm....reading is good....it states right above the Cnet review:

"GAMESPOT EDITORS' REVIEW"

Cnet Editor's reviewed it, however, due to the score they gave (look to the right of the article title) Cnet gave it 2/5 stars (Mediocre) The reviews are flowing in and it seems that (at the very least) mainstream sites do not like it much. I am waiting on PC Gamer, Gamasutra, IGN and the others before averaging out the scores here.

Let me also add this here, because some of the people are pointing fingers at others (like me) and saying that we're whining and bitching too much and that these things will get fixed in time.

What if you changed the company name from Square-Enix to Ubisoft? Changed the title of the game from Final Fantasy XIV to Munch's Odessey Online? But keep everything the same, right down to the name of the cities and to the races offered and the exact "pretty graphics" that you see now.

I can almost guarantee you that these same people would be slaughtering the game in their own opinions.

Oh and I totally agree with Icemage's points. "Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice, shame on you."

[Kailea]

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Ummmm....reading is good....it states right above the Cnet review:

"GAMESPOT EDITORS' REVIEW"

yeah I know I can read -.- still does not change the fact that is a copy and paste, and stupid to post the same review in two diffrent places, and giving the score two times like that.

Things like this are why I dont even bother with reviews any more, or even take merit in the scores that are given.

[TheGrandMom]

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Cnet Editor's reviewed it, however, due to the score they gave (look to the right of the article title) Cnet gave it 2/5 stars (Mediocre)

First let's establlish one thing, Cnet owns Gamespot. So they had to use Cnet's rating system and since Gamespots system is X/10, they translated it to Cnet's X/5. It's Gamespots rating, just adjusted.

Let me also add this here, because some of the people are pointing fingers at others (like me) and saying that we're whining and bitching too much and that these things will get fixed in time.

There are certain level headed people's opinions that I'll read fully and others that I glaze over. Some people are FFXIV'ers and it doesn't matter what SE does, they'll eat it up and make excuses for it. I'm realistic even if I'm a fangirl. I won't make the same mistake twice, but I will give them some time to turn things around. Fixing the chat issue with the recent patch was great but I'm still waiting for the retainer issue to be addressed. They say next week so we'll see.....and we'll see just how much they implement next week too. Ward changes? Yes. Searchable database? We'll see.

[DakAttack]

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In my opinion, FFXI was near perfect. Everybody blended extremely well together, but balance was always an issue. The world and lore were always pleasent and exciting to explore. I'll admit, I was expecting more from FFXIV's release, and I do feel like it's basically the beta repackaged. Even so, FFXI wasn't the game it is today when it was first released. CoP added so much, and it was the second expansion. Granted, ToAU ruined all of that, but it goes to show that SE knows how to deliver. At least, I'm still hopeful that they will deliver.

[Aeni]

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There are certain level headed people's opinions that I'll read fully and others that I glaze over. Some people are FFXIV'ers and it doesn't matter what SE does, they'll eat it up and make excuses for it. I'm realistic even if I'm a fangirl. I won't make the same mistake twice, but I will give them some time to turn things around. Fixing the chat issue with the recent patch was great but I'm still waiting for the retainer issue to be addressed. They say next week so we'll see.....and we'll see just how much they implement next week too. Ward changes? Yes. Searchable database? We'll see.

I've already stated that I am giving them 6 months before passing judgment (aka deciding whether to stay or move on) However, there's certain people out there that cannot stand to read the opinions of other people that may differ from their own and have taken a rather hostile tone. I've never once called someone an idiot because he said he thinks FFXIV is perfect, yet I've seen the reverse happen so many times now. Everyone has a right to their opinion and I think we can (I hope) be civil in our discussions, including controversial reviews about the game.

This was the exact same thing in FFXI and back then the ratings weren't nearly as low and people were still spitting acid on the reviewers and calling anyone with any kind of negative opinion about the game "idiots", "crybabies", "brats", etc.

An example:

Reviews like this on any MMORPG are just a funny read, because all they are, is noob QQ wine fests. The game is not perfect, hell no MMORPG is at launch.

I don't think anyone ever called Kailea a noob because he thinks the game is near flawless (or whatever opinion he has about the game) For all I know, that reviewer could've been anyone; could've been someone from this community.

[Kailea]

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I don't think anyone ever called Kailea a noob because he thinks the game is near flawless (or whatever opinion he has about the game) For all I know, that reviewer could've been anyone; could've been someone from this community.

I said that in a general statement, from reading many reviews of many different MMORPGs, No one can make a decent honest review of any MMORPG when the game has not even been out a month and the reviewer most likely did not pass level 10, so yes that is what most reviews of MMORPGs are.

[Etra]

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I'm still confused as to why this thread has gone on for so long.

If you like the game, play it. If you don't, don't play it.

No one is holding a bazooka to your head, shouting, "PLAY IT NOW OR DIE, HOEBAG." How is there a four page discussion on someone's opinion, that of which should be taken quite lightly?

[Raydeus]

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Because the discussion is not about who will play it and who wont, but about the state of the game and it's (not so certain) future.

[Aeni]

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No one is holding a bazooka to your head, shouting, "PLAY IT NOW OR DIE, HOEBAG." How is there a four page discussion on someone's opinion, that of which should be taken quite lightly?

It's a review. The discussion is over the merits of the concerns or complaints and that can go many ways. Obviously you are already set in your own opinion on the game the reviews won't dictate your purchasing decision (You already made that decision) But many other people are still deciding whether or not to buy this game, as Radeus alluded to, and so that is given consternation in the context of this review. Was this review fair or biased? Was the complaints accurate or are they just fruitless tirades regarding the company and not the product? That's what this discussion is for.

In your words, no one is holding a bazooka to your head and told you to "read this thread or die hoebag!"

[Ziero]

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is the UI still shitty even if you use a gamepad? (whatever people say, to me FFXI only made sense with a gamepad, and im sure FFXIV is the same, so i wanz know)

It's better, and feels more natural to control, but there's still a ton of issues and problems. Having said that, I loved XI's keyboard controls, easily my favorite control scheme out of all the MMOs I played (I hate using a mouse for gaming) and it makes me sad XIV couldn't just use the same damn one.

The UI is fine.

No it's not. First off, the keyboard should be fully customizable with all keys being re-mappable, the Direction Arrows should not be locked in place. Second, there's still a very noticeable delay in any action you take, a slowdown that is very annoying as it's already slow enough going through all the menus. The equipment screen lists every item in your inventory as opposed to just actual gear you can equip and the slowdown makes it unnecessarily more difficult to scroll though. Bazaars are also slow, and have a ridiculously short range on them. While you can check them at a distance, you have to be right on top of someone to actually purchase an item from it. Which is made even harder because you stop moving when you check a bazaar. Both crafting and NPCing things have far too many confirmation windows...and once again the slowdown makes the process take even longer. While some of the things on the HUD can be moved, most are static in position and thus it makes being able to move those few items all but pointless. On top of that, you can't even close or remove any of these items on the HUD at all, making it needlessly cluttered. The NPC chat pop up window is also annoying because the same text appears in your chatbox anyway so there's really no reason for it. Which, in regards to the chatbox, retains XI's very limited text limit, made even worse as that limit also includes the player's full name, giving you even less space to work with. There are no shortcut keys for targeting NPCs directly, so you either have to mouse over them or tab through everything making targeting needlessly difficult. There's also far too many interactions that require you to specifically activate them through the actual menu. Including Bazaars, party invites, using doors and Aetherites, crafting, gathering, trading, checking other players and even standing after you've used the /sit command. Speaking of which, the only way to actually sit on a chair (which is all of 1 that I've seen in all of Ul'Dah) is to also go through the menu.

There's a lot of problems with the UI, it's easily one of the worst parts about this game. But they're all these small, minor, annoying little issues that should have been fixed long ago. The actual game itself is fun to play, the combat, the crafting, the gathering, the things you actually do are enjoyable and engaging. It's just that you have to fight with this horrible interface to actually do any of it.

[Malacite]

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In my opinion, FFXI was near perfect. Everybody blended extremely well together, but balance was always an issue. The world and lore were always pleasent and exciting to explore. I'll admit, I was expecting more from FFXIV's release, and I do feel like it's basically the beta repackaged. Even so, FFXI wasn't the game it is today when it was first released. CoP added so much, and it was the second expansion. Granted, ToAU ruined all of that, but it goes to show that SE knows how to deliver. At least, I'm still hopeful that they will deliver.

Ty Dak. This is precisely what I've been trying to get through to some of the people in my shell who aren't satisfied with 14, and barely (if at all) played XI. SE can put together some truly epic work, the problem is they always seem to take their sweet ass time going about it. To that end, I think a lot of us (myself included) are much less forgiving with regards to how long it takes simply because this game has been in the works for 5 years, and they've learned a lot from XI. Plus, XI has been getting back-to-back updates that have just been spectacular, so it really just confounds me that XIV is so lackluster by comparison.

If this is your new flagship MMO, start acting like it SE.