AH is a bad thing, anyone agree FFXIV should not have AH?

[Aeni]

Re: AH is a bad thing, anyone agree FFXIV should not have AH?

I just hope they add an option to teleport you to where the retainer is, and shows the prices so you can compare...

Even better ... they'll add an option for you to pay through the list (assuming you're dealing with another NPC to see this list in the first place) Remember what the retainer is for ... it's a bank, first and foremost. Many players have yet to utilize the retainer as a merchant and eventually will once they've figured out the game and have settled in a bit. For now, a lot of them are just content to vendor their drops to NPCs and grind their levels the old fashion way. Once more and more players realize that economy is just as important as adventuring, you'll see more and more bazaars being opened up and more and more options as far as items are concerned.

One suggestion I would want to make to SE is the ability to PM these retainers in the same way you have that functionality on most forums/bbs. Then add the ability to (in 1,000 characters or less) describe your warez and have the ability to setup trades to players.

What I really would want, however, is an LS bank. Possibly a "super" retainer that has the ability to hold 500 slots and hold a 100 slot bazaar or something. Only allow LS that have an active roster of at least 10 characters to have access to this (or make it a purchasable contract, say, 250,000 gils)

Or tie the retainers to the account and not character slot.

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Honestly I didn't have a problem looking through bazaars. It's just that the UI is so slow that it becomes a pain in the ass. If the bazaar screen popped up immediately after clicking the browse button (this is also an issue. is there a macro function to directly browse someone? or do you have to go through menus to do it?) I wouldn't have as much of a problem with this system.

You forget that you can only display the first x number of characters. Your system and/or the software/client itself will refuse to display anymore than it can handle. You will NOT be able to load 1,000 characters on your screen.

[TheGrandMom]

Re: AH is a bad thing, anyone agree FFXIV should not have AH?

The more I think of it, the only way they can truly stop the RMT through the market system is to make it as god awfully frustrating as possible to compare prices so that people end up just buying the first item they see.

Oh look, and thats what they did!

[Paradigm777]

Re: AH is a bad thing, anyone agree FFXIV should not have AH?

You forget that you can only display the first x number of characters. Your system and/or the software/client itself will refuse to display anymore than it can handle. You will NOT be able to load 1,000 characters on your screen.

What do you mean? I'm simply talking about the time it takes to bring up the bazaar menu from the moment you press the browse button.

Are you referring to the number of character models that are allowed on the screen at any given time? I suppose this could be a problem but that's why they have so many wards. Even an adjustment such as a population limit for each ward would suffice if browsing latency was reduced.

I have complaints about this game's UI in general. It takes 2-3 seconds after you press a button for it to actually respond and take you to the next menu. For example, while crafting you have to press synthesize, then choose items, then choose hand, then choose the recipe, then confirm the recipe, then wait for the synthesis screen to pop up. This should only take about a second per screen once you get used to the button placements. However, with the UI lag, you're waiting a total of about 20-30 seconds just to get your synthesis started. Add that over a long crafting session and it amounts to A LOT of wasted time.

[TheGrandMom]

Re: AH is a bad thing, anyone agree FFXIV should not have AH?

It's clunky. It's exasperating.

[Takelli]

Re: AH is a bad thing, anyone agree FFXIV should not have AH?

Even better ... they'll add an option for you to pay through the list (assuming you're dealing with another NPC to see this list in the first place) Remember what the retainer is for ... it's a bank, first and foremost.

Then it would be just like an AH if they add it like that..., so I don't see them doing it. They want to stay away from anything like an AH this time around, which just sucks.

I just hope they put in one later on, and allow us just to use the retainers as storage.

Also, I have another question... Is there a mailing system in the game so you can mail items between players like in FFXI?

Because if not I can see it being a pain trying to level up an alt character, not being able to transfer money/items to your other character.

[Paradigm777]

Re: AH is a bad thing, anyone agree FFXIV should not have AH?

Also, I have another question... Is there a mailing system in the game so you can mail items between players like in FFXI?

Nope. Get a friend and trade.

[WishMaster3K]

Re: AH is a bad thing, anyone agree FFXIV should not have AH?

I can't care about an auction house system in a game where I can't even sort my items.

[Paradigm777]

Re: AH is a bad thing, anyone agree FFXIV should not have AH?

I can't care about an auction house system in a game where I can't even sort my items.

lol This is true. That was another big complaint of mine. My OCD took over and I used my retainer to alphabetize my inventory >.>

[WishMaster3K]

Re: AH is a bad thing, anyone agree FFXIV should not have AH?

My OCD took over and I used my retainer to alphabetize my inventory >.>

Since I'm not the only one who's done that, I don't feel as crazy. <_<

[TheGrandMom]

Re: AH is a bad thing, anyone agree FFXIV should not have AH?

lol @ you guys! I thought about it but my in game time is so limited, I put the reins on my OCD.....for now!

[Aeni]

Re: AH is a bad thing, anyone agree FFXIV should not have AH?

Are you referring to the number of character models that are allowed on the screen at any given time? I suppose this could be a problem but that's why they have so many wards. Even an adjustment such as a population limit for each ward would suffice if browsing latency was reduced.

If the limit is 20 characters and there are 10,000 players on this server and 1,000 players utilize the retainer bazaar system and let's say that comes out to 333 players per city and with ... what ... 4 wards tops?

Yeah ... 75 characters and only 20 can be displayed. Does this mean that I have to run out and run back in and hope that there isn't a priority system in place and hope character refreshes on display? You also have to remember that having so many bazaars up with 10 slots filled is taxing not only the server but the database. I don't know if you recall developers in SE talking about limits on the inventory in FFXI but remember that for every 1 slot increase it requires so much more additional resources to accomodate for it. Even Blizzard programmers have alluded to this fact and which is why they said that incrementally increasing size on bags (for example) by just two slots per expansion was all that they could afford. Adding 10 slots at once per bag would kill the servers and the game. If you think about that then you'll quickly realize that this retainer system is very inefficient when compared to the AH which centralizes (rather than individualize) the table from which data is saved and retrieved from.

In short, put the AH online, get rid of bazaars and make retainers account based.

[Takelli]

Re: AH is a bad thing, anyone agree FFXIV should not have AH?

In short, put the AH online, get rid of bazaars and make retainers account based.

QFT

I just want an AH in the game. I don't want to spend hours on end looking for a good deal on equipment, let alone trying to find it in the first place.

[Paradigm777]

Re: AH is a bad thing, anyone agree FFXIV should not have AH?

In short, put the AH online, get rid of bazaars and make retainers account based.

If this will release server resources to be used in optimizing the rest of the game then by all means go for it. Degrading gameplay for every other player is a silly way of trying to prevent RMT.

[Aeni]

Re: AH is a bad thing, anyone agree FFXIV should not have AH?

If this will release server resources to be used in optimizing the rest of the game then by all means go for it. Degrading gameplay for every other player is a silly way of trying to prevent RMT.

I could care less about anything else ... I just want retainer account based. No in-game mail system? Well, no problem, as long as my other characters can access this retainer and therefore I can easily pool money and resources. They need to take into account that there are many ways of playing this game and one of the ways I'm playing it is with multiple characters due to my inherent nature of being an organizational freak.

[ShepardG]

Re: AH is a bad thing, anyone agree FFXIV should not have AH?

Sorry, I came in late cause I was off work (getting married ^^) for 2 weeks. But I did some research.

Google >>> FFxiv Gil

100's of sites....

10 mil for $160

Good job SE, you elevated RMT by not including an AH.... Fucking fail.