Money & Crafting/Gathering

[Malacite]

Re: Money & Crafting/Gathering

Yeah I've learned two techniques so far, Maker's Muse & Tender Touch. The odd thing is I've only seem them activate while gathering. WTF SE?


It's quite annoying since they're both very nice skills:

Maker's Muse
Action Cost: 4

Smithing Optimal Rank: 10
Requires: Discipline of the Hand
Cast Time: Instant
Temporarily increases rate of success for standard syntheses. Most effective for mass production.


Tender Touch
Action Cost: 3

Woodworking Optimal Rank: 10
Requires: Discipline of the Hand
Cast Time: Instant
Temporarily reduces loss of durability. Most effective for parts.

[Firewind]

Re: Money & Crafting/Gathering

Not sure if anyone else has realised this but during crafting leves you can continue crafting until all of the mats are used up even if you have already passed the leve for extra skill ups and XP. I completely missed this in the beta due to how slow the interface was from Alpha to Open Beta but if didn't already know this, it's a nice y to squeeze in some extra skill ups.

[Malacite]

Re: Money & Crafting/Gathering

Yes, and it also increases your reward if you are able to get your total appraisal value up high enough in the form of extra mats.


I'm now sitting pretty at 10 Wood, 10 Smithing, 10 Alchemy, 9 (almost 10) Weaving, 7 Gold, 6 Leather 3 Cooking and 1 Armor. Botany is at 12, Mining 10.

I can't wait to hit 15 Botanist. You learn a skill that increases skill up rate for gathering (which will help immensely) and the rank 10 leves are already providing me with a healthy chunk of gil ranging from 4~8k a run plus performance bonuses. I'm betting the 15's will let me earn 10~16k easily, not to mention all the wonderful items I'll dig up.


So yeah, I'm glad I haven't focused too much on combat classes so far. My highest is 8 Lancer, along with 6 Archer and 5 Conjurer. Now, it would be good to get it up a bit more so I can defend myself as I've started seeing aggro on some of the rank 10 leves. However, I'm more concerned about milking gathering & crafting as much as possible before SE implements any kind of nerfs, as I'm sure they will.

I'm currently sitting pretty at just over 70k, at least 90% of which has come from leves. I didn't see that kind of money in XI until inflation! So really, I have to admit for all the things that piss me off about the game, over all it's been more enjoyable and rewarding than XI was. I'm really glad SE finally learned that you gotta reward people appropriately for time invested (well, for the most part anyway - Behest is a joke in terms of rewards)

[Firewind]

Re: Money & Crafting/Gathering

How do you make 70k from Leves alone? I've never gotten more than 5k for a single leve with a 4 former leves stacked.

And anyone know how the fuck you make a pair of Bone Hora without the synth exploding? I've failed 5 different attempts totalling 50k down the drain for a Lv6 weapon for a Lv10 Pugilist and putting me completely out of gil. And yes I am aware that I will have to repeat the process again with the Bronze Knuckles as a Lv11 Pugilist but considering I can't kill anything due to being stuck with the starter weapons it's probably for the better. A Gladiator can out damage me with TP builder attacks alone -_-

Seriously it's a Lv1 Synth...

[DakAttack]

Re: Money & Crafting/Gathering

Are you sure it's level one? If it's too high it'll pretty much force fail you, or lower the durability ungodly amounts even when you succeed, making completion impossible. The synth may also require a secondary skill, which will also force fail you if that's not high enough. It should warn you before you start the synth if that's the problem.

I believe 70k from leves is totally possible, at this point. I can't seem to make anything for myself at the moment, there's a noticable gap between what I can craft and what I want to craft. At least, it's noticible in the game. The charts on Lodestone don't exactly list level requirements.

Instead of straight up crafting my gear I'm collecting ore, turning it into nuggets and such, and selling them or trading them to people who can make me gear. It's a little archaic, but I need bronze gear and I'm having trouble finding anybody who can make it. I've gotten lucky with my bronze hoplon and bronze chest piece, but I need the mitts, legs, and feet. Oh, and I found a bronze knife +1 for 5k gil, so cheap!

[Malacite]

Re: Money & Crafting/Gathering

Bone Hora
Goldsmith (10)
Finished Product
Bone Hora (x1)
Required Crystals
Wind Shard (x4)
Ice Shard (x4)
Materials
Bone Chip (x2)
Blacklip Oyster (x1)
Animal Glue (x1)
Antelope Sinew Cord (x1)
Recommended Skill
Bonecarving Training (x1)


As for needing bronze gear, I can pretty much synth all the gear I need right now at 10 Smith, the problem is procuring the materials. The Bronze Cross-pein Hammer for example, requires an undyed canvas for one of it's components, which is a level 21 Weaver synth! Same deal with my Bronze Saw I need, which requires an Ash Saw grip that needs Iron Nails, a 21 Smithing recipe and so on...

I did get lucky with a guy selling Bronze Needles last night for only 6k. I could have made my own cheaper most likely, but I need all my bronze for other stuff at the moment.

[DakAttack]

Re: Money & Crafting/Gathering

I remember some discussion on the "training", but is that something we buy or a skill stat that improves over time?

[Malacite]

Re: Money & Crafting/Gathering

It's an item that makes synthesis for specific types of items easier that you buy with guild marks.


And Smithing FTW, dear God I can't wait for maint to be over, I wasn't aware of just how many of my tools I can already upgrade now (well, Smithing + Carpentry FTW to be exact) screw the bronze stage, I'm skipping right ahead to the level 12 items (maybe higher if I can manage it looking up the recipes now). This is gonna make my life a looooooooooot easier.

[Firewind]

Re: Money & Crafting/Gathering

Yeah I'm levelling Blacksmithing and I have a friend playing the game with me who has Woodworking. It's awesome because we always have access to new tools

[Aeni]

Re: Money & Crafting/Gathering

Rank 10+ leve reward a lot of gils. My friend got 20k from just 3 of them. He also got 15k from the class rank 10 storyline quest.