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  • #16
    Re: Horrible LAG on CE release! What will happen on SE?

    Originally posted by Malacite View Post
    The only really screwed up lag is with party invites and such.

    I mean, the game runs pretty much lag free for me except for earlier when I tried to make a party for some leves... It seemed like it was all on SE's side too, as I had a green connection the whole time I played. The system takes forever to process party invites and the like though.
    Pretty much this. It's all on SE's side and add in the sheer number of players in one area and the servers being all the way over in Japan with the typical lag a new MMO starts off with due to server issues and yeah...

    Should really be fine after the first month and all the free trial kiddies have gone back to WoW.
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    • #17
      Re: Horrible LAG on CE release! What will happen on SE?

      Yes this is early adopted and OPEN beta isn't? Seriously, if they can run open beta fine why am i lagging so much on retail.

      I am on Selbina on the other hand which is a populated server, I understand that but i am lagging so much i couldn't play nor even the doors are openning in the city after @ least 10 min. NPC takes 10-20 min to even start their conversation with me.

      I even port forwarded and i never experience this lag even on open bet on 3 different server. But the retail lag is ridiculous.

      of course it can all be me.

      I am running all highest setting with occlusion and deapth enable 4x MM filter. I did my ping test, 0 packet loss speed @ canadian crappy 4MBPS with BELL

      My system is 1055T 3.7ghz x6 5850 stock radeon Benchmark score 4075 (dual monitor 2600) High res. Graphic is 100% smooth i even switch between eyefinity or dual monitor or even triple monitor.

      when i mean lag, i mean i cast a spell it takes 1-2 min to see it goes and monster will hit me twice as soon it cast. Doors aren't openning (openable doors of course and npc take 5-20 min to start their next panel. I have the red circle on top of my head.

      p.S i am playing abit early in the morning to test it out...less laggy now, i think this is a server side lag.
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      • #18
        Re: Horrible LAG on CE release! What will happen on SE?

        Your logic confuses me, especially the part where you expect a brand new MMO that has literally thousands of people in the same area as you all trying to do the same thing as you at the same time and NOT lag.

        Open beta ran fine because there ere only a few hundred people in an area at any given time not a few thousand.

        It's the same for every MMO at launch. FFXI and WoW were both unplayable at launch due to the lag though I see that some people have a very selective memory about these things, especially when it comes to Final Fantasy games.]Home Page - Television Tropes & Idioms
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        • #19
          Re: Horrible LAG on CE release! What will happen on SE?

          The "No Direct X" error occurs when you hit the windows key. It force closes the game. It's one of the only issues I have with the game so far. It took Square YEARS to disable it in FFXI. Who knows why they didn't start out with it disabled here. I'm loving the game so far... I played for 22 hours straight and am just now going to bed. Here are my other complaints, though:

          1.) No party selecting with the function keys. It's a huge pain to target party members for healing purposes

          2.) You cannot see party members' locations on the map. It's way too difficult to find party members if you get separated

          3.) You can't invite friends to a party unless you're literally right next to them, at least as far as I can tell

          If I'm wrong on any of these, please help me out.

          p.s. if they didn't limit leves and experience per so many days, I would literally play until I died.
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          • #20
            Re: Horrible LAG on CE release! What will happen on SE?

            Originally posted by Firewind View Post
            Open beta ran fine because there ere only a few hundred people in an area at any given time not a few thousand.
            ...err, there were far more people playing the Open Beta then there are playing the Collector's Edition limited release bonus week. If someone's lagging that much now, it's only going to get worse in a week when the game fully launches.
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            • #21
              Re: Horrible LAG on CE release! What will happen on SE?

              Originally posted by TheGrandMom View Post
              I also had my game crash to desktop a couple times with an error telling me that there was no DirectX. /sigh Of course, I was doing guildleves at the time so now I have to wait until they are active again to finish them.
              Yeah this happened to me twice back-to-back >_> but hasn't happened since. I have however, gotten various random errors and been kicked out of the server lobby... at least I don't have to re-log like in XI.That shit got annoying fast, constantly re-entering my SE info.


              God damn it SE this is not cool, this should have been fixed in beta.
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              • #22
                Re: Horrible LAG on CE release! What will happen on SE?

                ill buy my gfx card next month.

                keep me updated about bugs and stuff that break the game dudes! THANKS
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                • #23
                  Re: Horrible LAG on CE release! What will happen on SE?

                  Originally posted by Firewind View Post
                  Your logic confuses me, especially the part where you expect a brand new MMO that has literally thousands of people in the same area as you all trying to do the same thing as you at the same time and NOT lag.

                  Open beta ran fine because there ere only a few hundred people in an area at any given time not a few thousand.

                  It's the same for every MMO at launch. FFXI and WoW were both unplayable at launch due to the lag though I see that some people have a very selective memory about these things, especially when it comes to Final Fantasy games.]Home Page - Television Tropes & Idioms
                  S-E is limiting entry to certain servers to balance it out. I doubt any one server has more than 1k people TOTAL right now. This is only the CE customers remember. Most people will join when the SE comes out.

                  Also, getting lag, and what the OP describes are 2 different things. One is a hindrance, one breaks the game.
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                  • #24
                    Re: Horrible LAG on CE release! What will happen on SE?

                    Originally posted by Gman View Post
                    S-E is limiting entry to certain servers to balance it out. I doubt any one server has more than 1k people TOTAL right now. This is only the CE customers remember. Most people will join when the SE comes out.

                    Also, getting lag, and what the OP describes are 2 different things. One is a hindrance, one breaks the game.
                    Palamecia (one of the least populated servers) had about 1.4k on yesterday afternoon. Haven't really looked at it today, but I'm assuming it's much more.
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                    • #25
                      Re: Horrible LAG on CE release! What will happen on SE?

                      Originally posted by Gman View Post
                      I doubt any one server has more than 1k people TOTAL right now
                      As of yesterday afternoon, there were a good half dozen servers with well over 1k members. Lindblum topping the charts at a good 1600. This was before most NAs and EUs got to play though.
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                      • #26
                        Re: Horrible LAG on CE release! What will happen on SE?

                        Turn occlusion off. Unless you have a 3 way 480 SLI setup, don't turn it on. Even in beta, ppl w/ 5970 had lag w/ it on.

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                        • #27
                          Re: Horrible LAG on CE release! What will happen on SE?

                          Yes i think occlusion is the culprit here. I turned this on and never did on Open beta.

                          the lag isn't graphic lag, my character ran sooo smooth and everything ran fine.
                          However, i don't Lag in the camp but i lag as soon i head out.

                          Now i disabled it and WOW zero lag (but i also turned all setting down, i will further test and give you guys some results)

                          P.S Now i am on High res, and zero lag now as soon culprit is down. Depth of field is up too. No lags.

                          All green!!! this thread can be deleted!!!
                          Last edited by wrongfeifong; 09-23-2010, 08:48 PM.
                          -add later-

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                          • #28
                            Re: Horrible LAG on CE release! What will happen on SE?

                            So basically it WAS your settings and you were blaming SE again...?

                            You need to check your stuff before throwing tantrums, seriously.
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                            • #29
                              Re: Horrible LAG on CE release! What will happen on SE?

                              Originally posted by Balfree View Post
                              So basically it WAS your settings and you were blaming SE again...?

                              You need to check your stuff before throwing tantrums, seriously.
                              No it was SE's fault. They didn't specific give us what ambient Occlusion is about.

                              It seem Ambient Occlusion cause lag on its own.

                              Try enable it and see for yourself. This isn't MY problem. My cards can run the game 100% "graphic/gameplay lag free" I am just having a lot "delay" lag such as monster not properly showing on the screen, getting attacked by ghost mob (not bogy), spells take 4-5 min to cast and NPC interaction take 3-4 per messages.

                              I was seeing red S:27 R:0
                              after disable now green S:27 R:80-300

                              Beside this thread serve its purpose! Now if someone come and tell you he lags, you can ask "did you enable Ambient occlusion?"
                              -add later-

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                              • #30
                                Re: Horrible LAG on CE release! What will happen on SE?

                                There is a very big warning in the manual that turning on Depth of Field and Occlusion will impact your performance.

                                RTFM...
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