Official Unofficial Bugs, Thoughts, and Suggestions

[Bricklayer]

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i don't know. after some levequests and partying tonight (~1-2 hours), i thought it was fun, but it was also buggy. i kept attacking targets, only to have all of my attacks stop working, with the mob still able to hit me. that kinda sucked. other than that though, i had a great time. i think the i5 + gtx 470 is a good combo.

[jenova_9]

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oh don't worry, mew! No matter how the launch turns out, SE will continue to fix and improve FFXIV as time passes!

Things will get better and improve!

[Neomage]

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oh don't worry, mew! No matter how the launch turns out, SE will continue to fix and improve FFXIV as time passes!

Things will get better and improve!

That's the problem. All MMOs are typically buggy at launch, but there are certain expectations across the genre. If a game doesn't meet these, it suffers a huge loss of players early on, which in turn reduces the resources SE would have to spend on improving the game. Even if the problems are fixed later, most MMOs that didn't quite cut it at launch never fully recover.

As I said before, I want FFXIV to succeed. It has some nice innovative concepts and at least partially breaks away from the WoW-clone mold(and we certainly don't need some of those), but the game is far too underdeveloped for a launch. What the game currently exhibits is what I would expect from an early beta, not what the open beta should run like two weeks before launch.

[jenova_9]

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well FFXI succeeded so FFXIV is sure to get better and win back more players!

People that quit FFXI always go back (at least 1-5 times. )

[Cyprius]

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Remember, XI was out in Japan before it came to NA. So what we seen in NA wasn't necessarily what the JP seen when it first launched.

I imported, but I can't remember specifics.

[Fliegar]

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I'll play it because I've played every other Final Fantasy. This one isn't slipping through my grasp! >:O

[Grizzlebeard]

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The 22nd marks the start of the More Open Beta.

Pay-for-Beta.

That always made me laugh with Vanguard. While Alpha and Beta testing there were massive concerns with all aspects of the game and the usual fanbois would say, "It's only Alpha/Beta, the final patch before launch will sort it all out". They said the same tired old crap right up to the point it launched and then during the first few weeks of the game going live when the chat channels were full of people complaining about bugs and shitty performance the same morons had the nerve to spew, "Don't complain! You should bug report it as the players are responsible for helping the developers fix the game..."

That game taught many people, myself included, to temper their optimism with new MMOs. Since that gaming Titanic launched there've been more than a few others that've followed in its wake and FFXIV would appear to be sailing towards the same iceberg.

[DakAttack]

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That's the problem. All MMOs are typically buggy at launch, but there are certain expectations across the genre. If a game doesn't meet these, it suffers a huge loss of players early on, which in turn reduces the resources SE would have to spend on improving the game. Even if the problems are fixed later, most MMOs that didn't quite cut it at launch never fully recover.

As I said before, I want FFXIV to succeed. It has some nice innovative concepts and at least partially breaks away from the WoW-clone mold(and we certainly don't need some of those), but the game is far too underdeveloped for a launch. What the game currently exhibits is what I would expect from an early beta, not what the open beta should run like two weeks before launch.

A beta is just that, a beta. It doesn't reflect the finished product in any way, shape, or form. Square-Enix are the masters of hype, so I wouldn't put it past them that they're using this open beta to showcase a small portion of the game while they hold back on what content they're developing during it. They still have internal testers that are picking through every single thing that comes across their desks, as well as the developers that pump out the content for the testers to test. Look at the patch notes, they're all fixes for server stability. They're just stress testing their servers.

On an unrelated note, the introductions for the three different cities kind of suck. Ul'dah, specifically, because those goobbue were complete badasses until after the cutscene, at which point they become dosile deer eating out of the player's hand. I can see where maybe the Aurelia aren't that powerful, but the wolves in Gridania should be a lot more menacing as well. I don't think the NPCs that stand around really help, either.

[Aksannyi]

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People that quit FFXI always go back (at least 1-5 times. )

Bullshit. I know plenty of people who quit and never looked back. I am one of those people. While thoughts of picking it up again have crept into my mind, the rational part of my brain that reminds me how "unfun" the game was by the time I quit keeps me in perspective. Take your rose colored glasses off for a minute and view the world the way the rest of us see it. It's the same reason you don't keep going back to an ex. You may have had great sex and a lot of fun going to movies and bars together, but underneath all of that superficial crap, there were far deeper issues plaguing the relationship and causing it to go toxic. And underneath all of the great sex and fun times you may think of when you're tempted to go back, you realize that those are just a cover up for the fact that you were not truly happy with this person, and that breaking up was the better option.

Again, though, I've said that FFXI players are like abused spouses, many of them just keep on going back and taking the crap. Many do manage to pull away, but equally as many come back month after month believing in all the promises SE keeps lavishing them with.

I can say that yes, I've been tempted to go back, sure. But underneath all of the fun of leveling my DNC in my spare time, there were still a lot of things that were making the game feel more like work than a game. And honestly, if a game is going to feel like work, then why the hell am I the one paying to play? They should be paying me. XD

[Grizzlebeard]

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Your account was banned though so your motivation to return is considerably diminished compared to the average player. Very few people this far along in FFXI's life would entertain starting at level 1 again.

[jenova_9]

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ya that's true, they should pay us. I could then afford more hostess cupcakes and maybe hang them like ornaments around the TV. =^^=

[TheGrandMom]

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I've been testing games for many years and I have to say this open beta ranks up there in the 5 worst that I've experienced.

top 5 worst? oh please now I know your blowing smoke out your butt -.- There have been many many many MMORPGs that have started out (and some still are) way worse then FFXIV is right now.

You know what? Reading comprehension is your friend. Those emphasized parts = my opinion from my actual experience. Who are you to tell me what I've experienced? Stop trying to antagonize me, I'm sick and tired of it. Consider this a warning. And don't start whining about this in this thread either, if you have an issue, take it to PM's.

Not really trying to start anything, but TGM seems to be the only person who cares about large images. XD

Yes it is. I go by the general rule of pictures being approx. 600 width and this is 1024. I'd say thats quite a bit over.

[Neomage]

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A beta is just that, a beta. It doesn't reflect the finished product in any way, shape, or form. Square-Enix are the masters of hype, so I wouldn't put it past them that they're using this open beta to showcase a small portion of the game while they hold back on what content they're developing during it. They still have internal testers that are picking through every single thing that comes across their desks, as well as the developers that pump out the content for the testers to test. Look at the patch notes, they're all fixes for server stability. They're just stress testing their servers.

Somehow I doubt that the content they are holding back, if any, is an intuitive UI. I perfectly understand holding back particular areas, quests, etc., but there are some fundamental issues that seem to be on the backburner since release is pressing so close. That said, this is one time I would love to be proven wrong.

[Aksannyi]

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Your account was banned though so your motivation to return is considerably diminished compared to the average player. Very few people this far along in FFXI's life would entertain starting at level 1 again.

I could have purchased another account like several other banned people, or been given a "mule" account, if I truly wanted to play. It was about three months between the time I quit and when I found out I'd been banned, and in that time, there was plenty of opportunity for me to turn back around and start playing again. Even before finding out my account was gone, I still had no desire to go back.

[Takelli]

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ya that's true, they should pay us. I could then afford more hostess cupcakes and maybe hang them like ornaments around the TV. =^^=

Wow... Jenova, you really are weird... At first I thought you where, but now I know you are...