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  • Re: Guide: Building a PC to play FFXIV

    Originally posted by CrimsonDeath View Post
    CPU - i7 2.66ghz
    RAM - 12GB DDR3/1600
    MB - EVGA E758-A1
    Graphics - GTX 480 (Fermi)
    PSU - Corsair 850w
    SSD: 80GB Intel X25
    SoundCard: Can't decide yet
    Case: Thinking CoolerMaster Cosmos, not sure yet (any suggestions?)
    Cooling: Zalman 120mm Heatsink
    You have the build or buying it? if you're buying then switch the CPU to i7 930 2.88 (10$ more) the mobo to EVGA FTW3 (same price but has USB3) and for a soundcard Creative and Asus have good ones to pick from as for case I got my HAF X yesterday and installed it, and with the giant fan and GPU shroud it dropped my temps 10c over my Antec 1200 so I would recomend that or maybe HAF932 (but needs filters).

    If you like the Cosmos looks go with Cosmos S though, the sidefan helps.

    If you want to splurge get a Geild Icy Vision(55$) for the Fermi(Take EVGA, their warrenty covers use of after market coolers) to keep it cool or set a fan profile, it helps alot.
    A ghetto way is to ziptie a 120mm fan to the heatsink of the fermi and have it blow air on it, that dropped the temps on the 1 I tried 7c.


    As for the CPU cooler currently I'm using a Coolermaster V8 (works nicely) but my Corsair H50 is on the way to replace it, both are good but H50 is better.

    ---------- Post added at 09:34 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:30 PM ----------

    Originally posted by Tsikuro View Post
    I'm looking for a little advice, myself.
    I'm currently running the following setup:

    Windows XP Home
    Intel Core 2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz
    GeForce 8600GT 256MB x2 (SLi)
    2GB RAM

    Benchmark scores are in the 900 range on low settings, which seems far too low considering I can still run most games flawlessly on high settings. As a sidenote, I play games with no anti aliasing or shadows, at my monitor's native resolution (1280x1024).

    I've heard good things about the following video card: Newegg.com - GIGABYTE GV-N460OC-1GI GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
    Would I be able to achieve significantly higher scores by getting rid of my 8600GTs and getting this sole upgrade?
    Bear in mind, I don't plan on playing at a resolution higher than 1280x1024, and I don't care about anti-aliasing, as previously mentioned.

    Edit: I don't care much for upgrading my OS or running DX10/11, just looking for good to great performance on my current base setup through one or two upgrades.
    The bench THAT HAS A GIANT NVIDIA LOGO ON IT does not run SLI and thats why your 2nd card didn't do anything for you.

    GTX460 is the new 8800GT, cant go wrong with it.

    ---------- Post added at 09:41 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:34 PM ----------

    Originally posted by Malacite View Post
    Some cards need their own power supply yes.

    Speaking of which, what about that GTX 460 I posted the link to? I'm trying to minimize costs ><
    Get the cheapest one, doesn't matter(though I still like EVGA's warrenty over the others), then ask an overclocking forum to help you overclock it a bit and It'll be up there with 5850.

    Hows your build coming along?

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    • Re: Guide: Building a PC to play FFXIV

      I'm not building anything, just replacing my Geforce 8600.

      I want the game to run smoothly without breaking the bank until I can find a freaking job. I figure by next year cards will have come waaay down and I can build a new PC cheap around Boxing Week
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      • Re: Guide: Building a PC to play FFXIV

        don't hack my mind! That is exactly what i been thinking.

        So right now i will just buy a 5770 + a 650w supply + 2gb ram on my crappy Pentinum D 3.2 ghz hoping i can achieve 1500 at least. I got 778 with 8600GTS so i expect 5770 will double its when i upgrade ram.

        Since CPU matter little less on low res, i will live with it.

        When intel release their 6 cores december, all the price will go down so quick. I will then move my card over + my PSU over. The ram is a sink cost T.T oh well i can still use my pc to draw and play FFXI smoothly.
        -add later-

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        • Re: Guide: Building a PC to play FFXIV

          Hello everyone.

          Hey before anyone gets a fermi card make sure you have good size case or some great airflow. When I first seen the release date I desided to put in some OT in at work to breath some new life in to system. I first got a evga 470gtx (invest in thisif you need an expensive space heater or leaf blower at 100% fan lol) I got it for 320 at amazon got lucky the price is getting higher. I was so exited to test it out that i dowloaded metro 2033 of a torrent (only 2 pc games i ever bought are ffxi and starcraft). I was so pleased with the results on the game even its still to much to max out on one card. I did OC the card a little for better results andthe game was going great i was so into it i played for 3 hours then the system just hut off, the 470 burned my mobo lol.

          Original:
          Cheap $30 (bad idea)
          CPU- phenom 9850 quad Black Edition 2.5ghz ( I love this cpu, burnt down 2 mobos and still kicking)
          CPU cooler- some cheap $15 fan i thought was doing the job but cost me 1 or 2 mobos.
          MOBO- xfx 750i sli
          Ram- 2 gb ocz 800mhz sli ed.
          PSU-550watt sli ready
          GPU- BFG 9800 gt no OC (single card)

          FFXIV Bench -

          High - 1700-1760
          low - 2400-2500

          Upgraded system:

          New gaming case with 3 120mm fans 1 200mm got it for 49 after 20 mail in rebate.
          CPU- same phenom 9850 I OC'd it to 2875 so far stable there is still some room for improvement.
          CPU cooler- Corsair H50 (love this thing closest thing to water cooling ima going to get)
          MOBO- Biostar 790gx (got a cross fire by accident lol so no SLI ;
          ram 4 gb ocz 774mhz ( i have them runing in single chanel 2x 1gb 1x 2gb)
          the ram is 800mhz in dual chanel but in this setup i got 677 oc to 774 works for me.
          GPU- EVGA 470 gtx (OC to a 480gtx specs i can go higher but my mobo burns lol)
          PSU- 550watt SLI ready (well not for fermi cards will need a 750 to sli 470's)

          PUt in about $500 to get these scores ; ;

          FFXIV Bench

          High - 3170 (so far im still trying to push for more)
          Low - 3320 I dont know why my low res score is so low.

          Any one else have this issue? Similar High and Low scores?
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          • Re: Guide: Building a PC to play FFXIV

            low setting on bench depends on the CPU and thats why your scores are similar, the CPU is definitely bottle necking you, I'm getting 5400 on low and 3900 high on i7 and GTX470.

            but its still a good score and you should have no issues with the game.
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            I'm going to do a test later this week with the following parts.

            Intel Core 2 Duo E7200 (2.53GHz)
            Corsair XMS2 800mhz 4GB
            GTX460 and HD5770

            with C2D 8400 and HD5770 the game ran just fine and I'm gooing to try it with the lowest C2D I could find, the 7200 and see how it'll do.

            What I tried so far.

            C2D8400+HD5770 Ran game with very slight stuttering every once in a while.

            Phenom II X3 + GTS250 Same as the above but slightly worse.

            i5 750+GTX260 Ran with no issues.

            i7920 +GTX470 Ran with no issues at all and frames never went under 27fps.

            Atm I'm trying to find a sweet spot on CPUs and something between C2D and i3 seems good, so its probably going to be an AMD 400-600$ build hopefully.

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            • Re: Guide: Building a PC to play FFXIV

              I just wanted to share these:

              Local PSA, for your safety:
              [nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMF590ATiUY"]YouTube- Obviously we have a rapist in Linkin Park[/nomedia]


              Leaked FFXIV final release gameplay:
              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLKVd...(-&#91;TRAILER


              Sick:
              YTMND - The Fresh Prince of The Matrix
              Gatts - PLD75/WAR37

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              • Re: Guide: Building a PC to play FFXIV

                Originally posted by abknight View Post
                Local PSA, for your safety:
                "Hide your husbands! They raping everybody out here." Man... I bet the people working at that news station were laughing their asses off when they were looking at the footage before it aired.
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                • Re: Guide: Building a PC to play FFXIV

                  K this is as cheap as I was able to go without gimping the game.


                  AMD Athlon II X3 440 Rana 3.0GHz 77$

                  MSI 770-G45 AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard 80$ (Can go with ASUS M4A78LT-M LE AM3 AMD 780L Micro ATX 65$)

                  G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-6400CL5D-2GBNQ 55$ (4GB is 90$)

                  Radeon HD 5770 140~155$ ( or GTX460 200$)

                  Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST3250318AS 250GB, $45 (WD Caviar blue 500gb 55$)

                  COOLER MASTER Centurion 534 55$ ( CM 690 II 70$)

                  GIGABYTE SUPERB GE-P450P-C2 550W 60$ (enough for 1 card)

                  Optical:: re-use yours or buy @ 20$ (LG is decent)


                  Total 450-480$ unless you do RAM/GPU/HDD upgrade

                  Should get 3000 on bench @ low. making it enough to run the game comfortably.

                  I'm done here!

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                  • Re: Guide: Building a PC to play FFXIV

                    3000 is fine.

                    Here watch this

                    4Gamer.net ― 【PR】GTX 260で本当に大丈夫なのか? ベンチマークテストとプレイ動画で確認する「FFXIV冒険Ready PC」の実力(HP Pavilion)

                    I think the video plays it in low res. 3000 + is pretty smooth compare to 800...and 800 is playable? WTF XD
                    -add later-

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                    • Re: Guide: Building a PC to play FFXIV

                      Originally posted by wrongfeifong View Post
                      I think the video plays it in low res. 3000 + is pretty smooth compare to 800...and 800 is playable? WTF XD
                      Damn... my laptop runs it faster than that laptop lmao. They should take the laptop they were running against that computer out back and give it the Old Yeller. Wishing I had a 980X about now..
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                      • Re: Guide: Building a PC to play FFXIV

                        I figured I ought to post this...

                        Here is my PC's over all ratings;


                        Processor: 5.9
                        Memory: 5.7
                        Graphics: 5.6
                        Gaming Graphics: 5.4
                        Primary Hard Disk: 5.9

                        Which gives my PC a Base Score of 5.4


                        What are the scores for you ppl who are in the Beta?
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                        • Re: Guide: Building a PC to play FFXIV

                          Originally posted by Malacite View Post
                          I figured I ought to post this...

                          Here is my PC's over all ratings;


                          Processor: 5.9
                          Memory: 5.7
                          Graphics: 5.6
                          Gaming Graphics: 5.4
                          Primary Hard Disk: 5.9

                          Which gives my PC a Base Score of 5.4


                          What are the scores for you ppl who are in the Beta?
                          Laptop:

                          Processor: 6.1
                          Memory: 6.1
                          Graphics: 6.7
                          Gaming Graphics 6.7
                          Primary Hard Disk: 5.4

                          Overall: 5.4

                          My overall was totally screwed...

                          Main PC:

                          Processor: 5.9
                          Memory: 5.9
                          Graphics: 5.9
                          Gaming Graphics: 5.9
                          Primary Hard Disk: 5.9
                          Overall: 5.9

                          The PC was totally screwed too. I think Window's Ratings are more broken than SE's benchmark.

                          As soon as I get done downloading torrents, I'm going to download the beta on my main pc to see how it runs. BTW Main PC is on Vista 64 and the Laptop is on 7 64.
                          Last edited by Durahansolo; 08-02-2010, 11:09 AM.
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                          "Hello! 100+3 Leathercrafting, your materials, 5k! Mention code LTH74 for a special discount!" - they'd get blisted by everyone they sent that to.
                          Originally posted by Solymir
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                          • Re: Guide: Building a PC to play FFXIV

                            Processor: 7.5
                            Memory: 7.6
                            Graphics: 7.9
                            Gaming Graphics: 7.9
                            Primary Hard Disk: 5.9
                            Overall: 5.9

                            WD green HD ruined my score lolz

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                            • Re: Guide: Building a PC to play FFXIV

                              That settles it then, with the GTX 460 I should be golden.
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                              • Re: Guide: Building a PC to play FFXIV

                                I was trying to decide between the GTX 460 and the HD 5850 for ages. I've seem some people mention a $100 price difference between them in the US, but here 1 GB 460 and the 5850 only had a £20 difference.

                                The 460 still had other advantages like physx and cuda so it was still a hard choice but I eventually settled on the 5850. The 460 being listed in the recommended specs also made me think SE could focus more on optimising for the Nvidia cards in the future.

                                The 460 usually sits somewhere between the 5830 and the 5850 in terms of performance and I got a decent deal on a card, £211 for the 5850 with 3 games, a 460 would have been about £180.

                                Hopefully I should have all my components on Friday, they're actually due to arrive today but I'm not going to be in (damn work) so I'm going to try and reschedule for Friday and take the day off.

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