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  • #16
    Re: Japan criticizes FFXIV's combat?

    Those criticisms make no sense (lost in translation??)... In FFXI your character attacks by itself, in FFXIV you choose the attack. The result is the same. I don't get it. If the overall feel of the battle is slow, I'm sure they will take that feedback into consideration and speed it up a bit if they can. Otherwise, I really don't understand how former FFXI players would call this "boring".
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    • #17
      Re: Japan criticizes FFXIV's combat?

      Originally posted by Armando View Post
      You can buffer stuff last I checked.

      About time, only took Square almost 2 decades.
      What do you mean buffer stuff? You mean charging abilities?
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      • #18
        Re: Japan criticizes FFXIV's combat?

        He means input an ability before it is technically "ready," so it would be executed the moment that it is. He views the flaw of many ATB Final Fantasies as, when you do nothing but grind on trash mobs for whatever reason, you're going to just give the attack command as fast as possible to an average of 4/5 of your party members. You see Armando, being the machine that he is, is positively annoyed at the concept of party members not attacking the instant they are able, and having to be told to do so first before they actually do anything. It's unnecessarily wasted time to him, especially if you're going to factor in human reaction times and whatnot.
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        • #19
          Re: Japan criticizes FFXIV's combat?

          Trying to kill a mob with nothing but archery in FFXI at a low level would be about as slow as that.

          All I can say is that PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW sound would drive me nucking futs.

          Also, no mob aggro AI yet? He had to chase down that stupid mosquito. If it weren't cornered at a cliff edge, it probably would've gotten away.
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          • #20
            Re: Japan criticizes FFXIV's combat?

            Originally posted by Kafeen View Post
            One of the points of the alpha test is to get a feel of what people think of the combat.

            Think of the criticisms at feedback rather than whiny complaints.

            At least issue like this are being brought up during the alpha stage.
            I have been trying to get this point across on other forums, and no one listens. It seems like they want to continue to argue about it.
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            • #21
              Re: Japan criticizes FFXIV's combat?

              Originally posted by Elwynn View Post
              Also, no mob aggro AI yet? He had to chase down that stupid mosquito. If it weren't cornered at a cliff edge, it probably would've gotten away.
              There is. I got chased down by some raptors on the beach - some times mobs lose interest in you, some times they hit you for 1500 damage.

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              • #22
                Re: Japan criticizes FFXIV's combat?

                aaah there is a beach in the alpha!?!?? =0.0= there's no videos of it yet. >.<

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                • #23
                  Re: Japan criticizes FFXIV's combat?

                  Originally posted by Yellow Mage View Post
                  It's unnecessarily wasted time to him, especially if you're going to factor in human reaction times and whatnot.
                  In before Armando calculating how many hours of his life have been wasted by an inability to queue attacks.

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                  • #24
                    Re: Japan criticizes FFXIV's combat?

                    Originally posted by Elwynn View Post
                    Also, no mob aggro AI yet? He had to chase down that stupid mosquito. If it weren't cornered at a cliff edge, it probably would've gotten away.
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                    • #25
                      Re: Japan criticizes FFXIV's combat?

                      Originally posted by Grizzlebeard View Post
                      If some people are in Alpha and stating the combat is slow then just maybe it is and it's something that will be looked at by the developers. Everyone taking potshots at the JPs might want to set aside their righteous indignation and think about that for a second.
                      Are these the complaints of Alpha testers though? Or is it more like what we see in the NA/EU communities where most of the complaints come from people watching lagging, slow leaked videos of the gameplay? I've seen the "this game looks slow" complaint before, but the vast majority of the time it comes from people who haven't actually played the game and have only seen videos online.

                      Either way though, lag, latency and game balancing are all still issues which are being worked on in the Alpha, so any complaints like this really don't hold water.
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                      • #26
                        Re: Japan criticizes FFXIV's combat?

                        Also keep in mind that these are probably characters with 0% haste. When you think about how much is available in FFXI now (let alone in the next 24 levels), maybe it's a good thing that players will be able to learn their tactics at a relatively slow speed before they have to start carrying them out hasted.
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                        • #27
                          Re: Japan criticizes FFXIV's combat?

                          If some testers found the combat boring, more and more players will also think the same if SE doesn't change things before it's released. That's some voice we all should listen to.
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                          • #28
                            Re: Japan criticizes FFXIV's combat?

                            More Nunchaku will solve this problem. FFXIV needs some god damn Nunchaku.

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                            • #29
                              Re: Japan criticizes FFXIV's combat?

                              Originally posted by Kailea View Post
                              Alpha -.-
                              I said "yet".

                              Originally posted by Jei View Post
                              If some testers found the combat boring, more and more players will also think the same if SE doesn't change things before it's released. That's some voice we all should listen to.
                              Yep, if it bores the JPs then it's got to be pretty dire.

                              I wonder what Koreans think about it... if you bore them, you might as well throw in the towel.
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                              • #30
                                Re: Japan criticizes FFXIV's combat?

                                Originally posted by Elwynn View Post
                                Yep, if it bores the JPs then it's got to be pretty dire.

                                I wonder what Koreans think about it... if you bore them, you might as well throw in the towel.
                                lolololololol I'm sorry but I busted out laughing when I read this. I was thinking how some people have been saying the NA/EU testers that were possibily complaining about the same issues are annoying, spoiled, whiny, etc BUT we should be concerned if the JPs do the same thing. Shouldn't we be concerned if any contingent of gamers are complaining about an aspect of the game?
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