Alpha Manual details uncovered! Gameinformer has the secrets!

[Malacite]

Re: Full FFXIV details uncovered! Gameinformer has the secrets!

Yay leaked info lol. (Hey, it's not my ass breaking the NDA >.>b)


So it finally starts Thursday eh? I imagine that there will be restrictions on the teleporting by the time they get to the open beta, especially since the game's own lore mentions that overuse of Aetheryte is dangerous. That's nice that they have recharge stations scattered in the field though!

And I have to say I really like the new UI. The trade interface is much sleeker than XI's, though I couldn't help but notice they cut the trade slots down from 8 to 4.

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So? SE can request people remove stuff till they're blue in the face, they have no more power to make you stop talking about it than I have to make people stop talking about that one embarassing incident I got into.

Unless they come at you with lawyers, which can happen. Though I doubt they'll bother in this case as nothing critical about the game has been leaked.

[Ziero]

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I was just stating why I didn't post the info. I never signed anything nor am I in an sort of beta to be banned from. However I'm not gonna go causin trouble for other websites by spreading the info as I know it's not something that can be openly posted.

In the end though, the info is still old and really not something a gaming mag should be spreading around. However, if people are interested in the info, I'm sure I could find a simple way to share it if asked.

So? SE can request people remove stuff till they're blue in the face, they have no more power to make you stop talking about it than I have to make people stop talking about that one embarassing incident I got into.

...err, legally they can. You may not have to comply to their initial requests, but SE has every right to go right to the server host/service provider to pull down the site until the information is removed. In fact they already went to BG and asked them to specifically remove the manual, which they did without issue because they know it's not worth the actual problems that will follow if they don't comply.

[Feba]

Re: Full FFXIV details uncovered! Gameinformer has the secrets!

Unless they come at you with lawyers, which can happen.

Which still means absolutely nothing. They'd have to take you to court to even begin to have an effect, and they really don't want the publicity from that. "SE bullies forum administrator with futile lawsuit to punish sharing of FFXIV information" is not something they want.

...err, legally they can.

No, they can't. You're correct in that they can go to your host, but your host is under no obligation to them to remove content. Your host can remove content, but then you're not dealing with SE anymore.

[TheGrandMom]

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I didn't know about any of this so it'd be nice if we could stop with the assumption that everyone knows everything right away and such info is automatically old news, I'm not sure why it bothers you so much.

The forum is not you.

Well the title was misleading to me too. I thought I'd see new info and then saw "alpha manual" in the text and was like....shit old news. And Jenova has gotten under peoples skins with some of her posts/attitudes so it was a double whammy.

I'm going to change the thread title so people know what the thread holds.

[Pwnagraphic]

Re: Full FFXIV details uncovered! Gameinformer has the secrets!

Old news is old, all the info they're talking about came from the Alpha Manual leaks that have been floating around since last week.

You knew about the physical levels? I wasn't sure how it was going to work for sure until now. I googled alpha leaks and found none of this.

[Ziero]

Re: Alpha Manual details uncovered! Gameinformer has the secrets!

Well the manual specifically states the difference between the two and says the cap will be 20.

It's sort of like FFXI's system to be honest. For a single job, you could have multiple weapon skill levels and as you grew in Job level, your skill level caps increased as well. The higher the skill you had with a weapon the more abilities (weapon skills) you unlocked. In XIV, instead of having 20 "physical levels" you have one, but you still have weapon skill levels that grant you more abilities as you level them up. It's just that those abilities grant you more then just weapon skills, they also grant class based skills.

Though I'm still loling at the whole idea of XIV having a traditional leveling system since SE said a long while back it wouldn't have a traditional leveling system.

[jenova_9]

Re: Alpha Manual details uncovered! Gameinformer has the secrets!

maybe they meant to say it won't have XI's traditional leveling system, with the experience levels per Job and stuff.

[Ufgt]

Re: Alpha Manual details uncovered! Gameinformer has the secrets!

Lvl 20 cap? That's pretty low, I wonder how long each level will take and what effect it will have on stats gain. Sounds a lot like dnd where it takes forever to level, but each level brings tons of benefits.

[pixiehawk]

Re: Alpha Manual details uncovered! Gameinformer has the secrets!

Lvl 20 cap? That's pretty low, I wonder how long each level will take and what effect it will have on stats gain. Sounds a lot like dnd where it takes forever to level, but each level brings tons of benefits.

I thought the Level 20 cap for the Alpha. So the game might go to 100 for all anyone knows.

[Ufgt]

Re: Alpha Manual details uncovered! Gameinformer has the secrets!

I thought the Level 20 cap for the Alpha. So the game might go to 100 for all anyone knows.

Oh...

I guess that makes more sense.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

Re: Full FFXIV details uncovered! Gameinformer has the secrets!

Because it's GameInformer. They aren't even up to gaming journalism's level of integrity. GI is practically a subscription to GameStop, not anything actually worth reading.

I'm afraid to ask, but what is the golden standard for gaming journalism?

[Malacite]

Re: Alpha Manual details uncovered! Gameinformer has the secrets!

It's sort of like FFXI's system to be honest. For a single job, you could have multiple weapon skill levels and as you grew in Job level, your skill level caps increased as well. The higher the skill you had with a weapon the more abilities (weapon skills) you unlocked. In XIV, instead of having 20 "physical levels" you have one, but you still have weapon skill levels that grant you more abilities as you level them up. It's just that those abilities grant you more then just weapon skills, they also grant class based skills.

Though I'm still loling at the whole idea of XIV having a traditional leveling system since SE said a long while back it wouldn't have a traditional leveling system.

That's not exactly what the article says. It says you have both physical levels and skill levels, which seems to imply that unlike XI you do have a main character level to go alongside your associated skills, all of which cap at 20. It could also be we have class levels + skill levels, though the article wasn't that specific. We'll know soon enough as the beta begins in 2 days.

I was actually somewhat hoping for an FF2 system where you can keep training your character as much as you want, with each progression naturally getting harder. This way I can pick whatever character I'd like for Aesthetic purposes and still be able to max out my STR or INT or what have you, as opposed to being forced to pick between two extremes (Taru vs Elvaan/Galka)

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I'm afraid to ask, but what is the golden standard for gaming journalism?

I hope that was a rhetorical question :3 (hint: there is none.)

[Feba]

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I'm afraid to ask, but what is the golden standard for gaming journalism?

It's not a golden standard.


It's not even really a copper standard.


I think even aluminium would be pushing it.


You know what? Let's forget metals all together. Let's just use soils. Gaming journalism's standards are around red clay.

[Pwnagraphic]

Re: Alpha Manual details uncovered! Gameinformer has the secrets!

Lvl 20 cap? That's pretty low, I wonder how long each level will take and what effect it will have on stats gain. Sounds a lot like dnd where it takes forever to level, but each level brings tons of benefits.

It's just for Alpha.

[Jei]

Re: Alpha Manual details uncovered! Gameinformer has the secrets!

Balfree

I thought NDA only applies to those who signed them. Testers aren't allowed to leak informations. But when they're leak, we non-testers can rejoice and post them.