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  • Question? Will there be a mass exodus FFXI when FFXIV comes out?

    It is hard for me to say what will happen. I have heard that many players are much divided on the issue. They have played FFXI so long and it almost feels like a waste of time to give it all up to start FFXIV. Then I have also heard players say bring on FFXIV because of the new interface and new excitement which some players have lost from FFXI. I would like to hear what you have to say so I can make a better decision on my part... Thanks.
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    Re: Question? Will there be a mass exodus FFXI when FFXIV comes out?

    Are you tired of FFXI? If so, go ahead and move on. Same if you seem to be doing nothing but endgame events so that you can get better gear to... do more endgame events.

    Also, consider what FFXI was like when it was new. They already had Zilart out at US release, but that was what, nine jobs? They're going to have a bit more than that at 14 release, but you can be sure there are going to be a lot of adjustments and additions in those first two years. If you want to be there for what will eventually be "the old days", then that's another reason to go to 14.

    I haven't even played XI for two years so far, so I'm not tired of it yet. And I don't want to buy the hardware needed for 14 yet. I have neither a PS3, nor a PC with a high-spec video card. If they came out with a Mac version, I would consider it, but even with the increase in market share, I don't think they're going to care enough to port it for OpenGL.

    I'm in no hurry, 14 will be around for a while. But I'm not going to switch just so that I can play the ☆★☆ALL★☆★NEW☆★☆ time sinks and grinding.
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    • #3
      Re: Question? Will there be a mass exodus FFXI when FFXIV comes out?

      Originally posted by Elwynn View Post
      Are you tired of FFXI? If so, go ahead and move on. Same if you seem to be doing nothing but endgame events so that you can get better gear to... do more endgame events.

      Also, consider what FFXI was like when it was new. They already had Zilart out at US release, but that was what, nine jobs? They're going to have a bit more than that at 14 release, but you can be sure there are going to be a lot of adjustments and additions in those first two years. If you want to be there for what will eventually be "the old days", then that's another reason to go to 14.

      I haven't even played XI for two years so far, so I'm not tired of it yet. And I don't want to buy the hardware needed for 14 yet. I have neither a PS3, nor a PC with a high-spec video card. If they came out with a Mac version, I would consider it, but even with the increase in market share, I don't think they're going to care enough to port it for OpenGL.

      I'm in no hurry, 14 will be around for a while. But I'm not going to switch just so that I can play the ☆★☆ALL★☆★NEW☆★☆ time sinks and grinding.
      That is some very good points you bring up. I am not tired of FFXI and I am excited about the new updates coming out. I am just wondering what others are thinking but thanks for the good insight from your view...
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        Re: Question? Will there be a mass exodus FFXI when FFXIV comes out?

        there will be a lot playing XI, but there will also be a lot moving to FFXIV.

        But ya just remember it's really not a waste of time "starting over" with a new FF mmorpg, because it's just like
        starting over at basic level in a new FF game/RPG.

        But ya people who recently capped or reached the higher content of XI, might stay on that longer before possibly moving
        to XIV. it depends on taste and how much they like XI. Some are sick of XI despite the upcoming expansions and the
        cap raising to 99. And others struggling in XI would give XIV a try if they find it more rewarding in less time.
        And others want a whole new world to explore where everyone starts out around the same levels.
        Ya some see XIV as strange, and others see XIV as a major improvement and a more ideal FF mmorpg for them.

        So ya FFXIV will be popular and get lots of FFXI veterans, especially ones who quit XI a while ago, and of course
        newcomers and ppl from other mmorpgs. So ya, XIV is really something like XI was when more people explored
        an unknown world and formed alliances and helped each other more and stuff. The newness factor makes it even
        more amazing. And a lot of people may find the battle system and other things much more enjoyable and interesting.
        Others might wait until class types they like are added.

        So ya, I think there will be plenty playing XI and XIV also.

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          Re: Question? Will there be a mass exodus FFXI when FFXIV comes out?

          You'd have to be stubborn not to. FFXIV will be the sum of everything they learned during FFXI. I can't wait.

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            Re: Question? Will there be a mass exodus FFXI when FFXIV comes out?

            Originally posted by DakAttack View Post
            You'd have to be stubborn not to. FFXIV will be the sum of everything they learned during FFXI. I can't wait.
            oh ya that too. Eventually FFXIV will be the only FF mmorpg people will play.

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              Re: Question? Will there be a mass exodus FFXI when FFXIV comes out?

              Originally posted by Emmanuell View Post
              It is hard for me to say what will happen. I have heard that many players are much divided on the issue. They have played FFXI so long and it almost feels like a waste of time to give it all up to start FFXIV. Then I have also heard players say bring on FFXIV because of the new interface and new excitement which some players have lost from FFXI. I would like to hear what you have to say so I can make a better decision on my part... Thanks.
              In my personal opinion..
              I grew tired of FFXI years ago. BUT.. I loved the game. I just hated the economy, and I hated how hard it was to advance my crafting skills. That;s what prompted me to quit, but I do miss FFXI. I think that everyone is curious to see what SE has done this time.
              I only played 3 MMO's, so if I am wrong let me know, but the mog house, sub-jobs, and complexity was unlike anything I have known. That made it stand out. But FFXI came out at the end of it's style of MMO. WoW was casual which destroyed FFXI and EQ. I'm not sure how EQ2 was, but when FFXI came out, XP parties was normal for MMO's. FFXI is now outdated, and SE sees this and now they're ready to join the rest of the casual MMO's.

              Is this a WoW killer? I doubt so.. But hopefully XIV hangs tight with WoW.
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                Re: Question? Will there be a mass exodus FFXI when FFXIV comes out?

                They have played FFXI so long and it almost feels like a waste of time to give it all up to start FFXIV.
                well.... playing game is always a waste of time. But that's not the point.

                I've played FF3 over and over again on NES for over 20 years. Having spent so much time in it doesn't mean I'm gonna stick with it my whole life and not play other newer FF.

                Exploring a whole new game is suppose to be fun. And that IMO is the most important factor for us to choose our game to play - FUN! That alone means almost 100% of FF XI player will switch to FFXIV.

                Now whether they'll stay with XIV or not will depends.... if XIV is actually fun past that point or not.
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                  Re: Question? Will there be a mass exodus FFXI when FFXIV comes out?

                  Originally posted by Pwnagraphic View Post
                  In my personal opinion..
                  I grew tired of FFXI years ago. BUT.. I loved the game. I just hated the economy, and I hated how hard it was to advance my crafting skills. That;s what prompted me to quit, but I do miss FFXI. I think that everyone is curious to see what SE has done this time.
                  I only played 3 MMO's, so if I am wrong let me know, but the mog house, sub-jobs, and complexity was unlike anything I have known. That made it stand out. But FFXI came out at the end of it's style of MMO. WoW was casual which destroyed FFXI and EQ. I'm not sure how EQ2 was, but when FFXI came out, XP parties was normal for MMO's. FFXI is now outdated, and SE sees this and now they're ready to join the rest of the casual MMO's.

                  Is this a WoW killer? I doubt so.. But hopefully XIV hangs tight with WoW.
                  I really like your last few sentences there... I do hope FFXIV gives WoW a run for its money and kills it for all I care. FF just has that Nostalgia that we all love... FF player anyways lol. I find it hard to let go of XI because I do enjoy it but I know I will enjoy XIV as well. Time moves on and no one can stop it and change will always occur... It’s a part of life!
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                    Re: Question? Will there be a mass exodus FFXI when FFXIV comes out?

                    My person feeling is that there will be waves of migration to FFXIV but it wont be an exodus, I think it will pan out something like below.

                    The disgruntled/sitting on the fence people still playing FFXI will leave first, this could well be a large initial burst of people migrating and then in "dribs and drabs" as news about FFXIV being totally awesome and wonderfull and not having a single crab or rabbit in sight filters through the community

                    At the same time I am expecting a small but significant migration of the big end game shells to FFXIV, in particular the uber skilled massively equipped shells that were establish from JP release and US release. The US shells (and to a less extent the EU shells) will also be especially keen to get their ASPAP to avoid the issues seen with FFXI with some sections of the community constantly playing catch up to others who by chance of geography received the game year(s) before anybody else . Once this initial burst has happened then I expect the migration of entire shells to be slow but get faster over the coming year. I am expecting the EU shells to be leaving slower simply because they have been playing for a shorter length of time than anybody else.

                    Then there are the casual and the enthusiasts with social and RP guilds which I expect to start out with a small number of migrations but will increase in number as the year(s) go by as they are more motivated to move their entire social group and will be able to take advantage of the reduced number of hardcode shells out there.

                    In a strange way I think the migration could prove be beneficial for FFXI end game. I'm sure all end game shells that stay will benefit greatly from the reduced presence at the HNM camps. Less conflict for Dynamis/Limbus zones for everybody and general less population in merit party camps etc etc etc.

                    As a slight OT I am expecting the economy in FFXI to change too. Ccould be good for crafters due to removal of the "old school" but will probably be bad for the buyers as demand will remain relatively constant (assuming the people that are leaving already have everything they need which is most the likely situation) but supply will diminish due to decreased availability of materials and/or skilled crafters.
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                      Re: Question? Will there be a mass exodus FFXI when FFXIV comes out?

                      Originally posted by Dux View Post
                      My person feeling is that there will be waves of migration to FFXIV but it wont be an exodus, I think it will pan out something like below.

                      The disgruntled/sitting on the fence people still playing FFXI will leave first, this could well be a large initial burst of people migrating and then in "dribs and drabs" as news about FFXIV being totally awesome and wonderfull and not having a single crab or rabbit in sight filters through the community

                      At the same time I am expecting a small but significant migration of the big end game shells to FFXIV, in particular the uber skilled massively equipped shells that were establish from JP release and US release. The US shells (and to a less extent the EU shells) will also be especially keen to get their ASPAP to avoid the issues seen with FFXI with some sections of the community constantly playing catch up to others who by chance of geography received the game year(s) before anybody else . Once this initial burst has happened then I expect the migration of entire shells to be slow but get faster over the coming year. I am expecting the EU shells to be leaving slower simply because they have been playing for a shorter length of time than anybody else.

                      Then there are the casual and the enthusiasts with social and RP guilds which I expect to start out with a small number of migrations but will increase in number as the year(s) go by as they are more motivated to move their entire social group and will be able to take advantage of the reduced number of hardcode shells out there.

                      In a strange way I think the migration could prove be beneficial for FFXI end game. I'm sure all end game shells that stay will benefit greatly from the reduced presence at the HNM camps. Less conflict for Dynamis/Limbus zones for everybody and general less population in merit party camps etc etc etc.

                      As a slight OT I am expecting the economy in FFXI to change too. Ccould be good for crafters due to removal of the "old school" but will probably be bad for the buyers as demand will remain relatively constant (assuming the people that are leaving already have everything they need which is most the likely situation) but supply will diminish due to decreased availability of materials and/or skilled crafters.
                      Wow very thought out prediction to this complicated dilema! I have heard some say they will not switch and I have heard others say they are so excited about switching to XIV so time will tell! Thanks!
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                        Re: Question? Will there be a mass exodus FFXI when FFXIV comes out?

                        Originally posted by jenova_9 View Post
                        oh ya that too. Eventually FFXIV will be the only FF mmorpg people will play.
                        Do you think before you post?

                        FFXI will have a place for many, I doubt it will fully die. And if it does, it'll be when the NEXT FF MMO comes out. You know there'll be another one, unless XIV totally fails.
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                          Re: Question? Will there be a mass exodus FFXI when FFXIV comes out?

                          Originally posted by CrimsonDeath View Post
                          Do you think before you post?

                          FFXI will have a place for many, I doubt it will fully die. And if it does, it'll be when the NEXT FF MMO comes out. You know there'll be another one, unless XIV totally fails.
                          I think both games will survive but FFXI needs to upgrade their whole interface and graphics in the future. It is very doubtful they will be able to compete as the years go by. None the less I love FFXI and will continue to play it as well. Once FFXIV arrives I will defiantly jump right in and check it out as well. So, lets have the best of both worlds shall we?
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                            Re: Question? Will there be a mass exodus FFXI when FFXIV comes out?

                            I've heard a lot of my LS state that they'll continue to play both, but frankly (putting money vaule point aside) I don't see how or why. Perhaps I can understand to keep in touch with friends, but still... I dunno, am I the only one that sees this as as waste of time? I'm the type to stick to one thing and doing the best I can on that one... no?

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                              Re: Question? Will there be a mass exodus FFXI when FFXIV comes out?

                              Originally posted by lunawriter View Post
                              I've heard a lot of my LS state that they'll continue to play both, but frankly (putting money vaule point aside) I don't see how or why. Perhaps I can understand to keep in touch with friends, but still... I dunno, am I the only one that sees this as as waste of time? I'm the type to stick to one thing and doing the best I can on that one... no?
                              You may think of it as a waste, but I only played the game to pass time when theres nothing to do (Which is almost always where I live). I will hop onto FFXIV when it comes out. Its new, its something to do, and its new as I said before. It will be different.

                              If I don't like it, I can always come back to FFXI, but frankly... I have grown tired of FFXI mainly because I have done what I wanted, but not yet completed missions, and so on, so those will be why I go back to FFXI.

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