FFXIV Character creation details revealed!

[Takelli]

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Reading a webcomic then posting exactly what the author says you should think about the game doesn't makes you funny or smart, especially when talking about one of the few skill based advancement systems that actually WORKS and makes a little sense if you apply a little bit of imagination to your gaming though trying to find a modern gamer who has a sense of imagination is like trying to find a dog that speaks Norwegian

I did read that commic, but I was not qouting it. It is my personal oppinion of what I had thought about the games leveling system bassically. There where many issues with it IMO. You could sit out side the city, and kill the weaklings over and over for about an hour or so and get like 200 Liscence points with out much effort at all.

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It wasn't supposed to be a personal insult and I appologise in advance to Takelli if, he for some reason takes a post from an internet forum seriously enough to consider it as a personal insult. It just gets really old when people reference that comic when talking about FFXII's Lisence Grid system.

I don't worry about half the stuff said about me on the internet. Have you seen half my posts? lol

I also wasn't meaning to refrence it, it was just a coincidence lol.

[Coinspinner]

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How is that any more realistic? Like TGM said, in FFXII if you wanted to make a White Mage who could wield daggers or a Katana you were freely able to do so by having your character spend skill points to represent your White Mage learning how to fight with daggers

Actually it represents your character getting permission from the government to wield the dagger. "License" if you will. No license? Red Card for you! Do not pass "Go", do not collect 200 gil. That is how Ivalice actually works. It is a silly place.

[Pwnagraphic]

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don't worry about half the stuff said about me on the internet. Have you seen half my posts? lol

I also wasn't meaning to refrence it, it was just a coincidence lol.

Lol screw that.. I don't have as much patience for people on the internet like I do in RL. Well.. lately I have.

[jenova_9]

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wow lately today Eorzeapedia seems to have loading problems, maybe they are doing maintenance.

[Firewind]

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Actually it represents your character getting permission from the government to wield the dagger. "License" if you will. No license? Red Card for you! Do not pass "Go", do not collect 200 gil. That is how Ivalice actually works. It is a silly place.

You get higher combos with weapons higher up on the licence grid though and the term licence could easily be substituted for aptitude or the like *shrugs*.



Really it doesn't matter what you call them: Ability Points (FFV, FFX-2), Job Points (FFT), Sphere Points (FFX), Merit Points (FFXI), Stigma Shards (Aion), Specialisation Points (Warhammer Online) Skill Points (way too many RPGs to list), Eviity Points (Disgaea 3) they all represent the same thing at the end of the day: your character training to use that skill.

I mean really you can also apply the permissions logic to any RPG where you have to go up to a tutor and spend skill points to buy skills. Pokemon (move tutors and badges being required to use HMs) and Aion are the first RPGs that leap to mind. If that's the way you see how skill points convert to actual skills in RPGs then go for it since it does make logical sense. I just prefer to think of it as the training/learning thing myself

[Pwnagraphic]

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I liked the sphere points. I hope something like that is in XIV.

[Coinspinner]

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I mean really you can also apply the permissions logic to any RPG where you have to go up to a tutor and spend skill points to buy skills. Pokemon (move tutors and badges being required to use HMs) and Aion are the first RPGs that leap to mind. If that's the way you see how skill points convert to actual skills in RPGs then go for it since it does make logical sense. I just prefer to think of it as the training/learning thing myself

I was only half serious. But it does make some sense my way: Licensing the skill does not let you use the skill. Buying the skill does not let you use the skill. You need both. You purchase magick/technique training (or whatever it is) from a trainer, you trade LP for a license. I only apply this to FFXII, due to the way it works in that game, plus the context of the game's setting.

Though I like the idea of spells being thingamabobs you can buy from a street vendor. Or that they can spoil like produce, a la Chrono Cross.

[Malacite]

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License Board was garbage, never speak of it again.

The Sphere Grid wasn't too bad. I still like FF5/T's systems best as far as jobs go, but for total freedom, it's Materia or GTFO. Would be really cool to see Materia come back in an online setting. GF's wouldn't quite work IMO since well, the whole point was summons were unique (though FFXI kinda threw that out the window)

[Jei]

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Japanese seems to want to do fancy things even for the simplest stuff. Optima in FFXIII, although it works well for the game, is very silly if you ask me.

[Pwnagraphic]

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License Board was garbage, never speak of it again.

Hell yeah I agree.

[Takelli]

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I liked the sphere points. I hope something like that is in XIV.

lol you may want it like that in FFXIV, but i'd rather it be more like something like Ryzom than anything else...

[Armando]

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Though I like the idea of spells being thingamabobs you can buy from a street vendor. Or that they can spoil like produce, a la Chrono Cross.

What? Is this some crazy endgame thing? I'm a bit over 30 hours into CC and haven't run into Elements that spoil yet.

License Board was garbage, never speak of it again.

The fact that you don't like it doesn't make it garbage.

but for total freedom, it's Materia or GTFO

Materia was cool but it was very exploitable, not the sort of system you'd want for an MMO unless you impose extra restrictions or limit what can be equipped, and then it becomes nothing special.

[hexx]

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I loved the Sphere Grid, I think it was on of FF's better leveling systems.

As for the license board, it comes in at second place for me as well, I totally 'ed it.

[Kailea]

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FF 5/7 for me, those where the ones I liked.

[Firewind]

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License Board was garbage, never speak of it again.

The Sphere Grid wasn't too bad. I still like FF5/T's systems best as far as jobs go, but for total freedom, it's Materia or GTFO. Would be really cool to see Materia come back in an online setting. GF's wouldn't quite work IMO since well, the whole point was summons were unique (though FFXI kinda threw that out the window)

Yet the materia system garbage to me because it was highly restrictive and had no effect on how characters develop whatsoever...

Just because you didn't like something doesn't make it garbage .

If FFXIV isn't using a job system I wouldn't mind seeing something like the Sphere Grid system or License board system but knowing SE it's going to be like FFII...