FFXIV will not have AH's! Could this lead to a fair economy?

[TheGrandMom]

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Theres nothing wrong with discussing how they'll work around the issues they had with FFXI's economy. If you didn't think the system needed an overhaul in FFXI then move on to another thread that does interest you. So get this back on topic since its a very relevant discussion.

[Feba]

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FFXIV will not have AH's! Could this lead to a fair economy?

A more NPC controlled market would prevent the disasters of FFXI's economy.

Socialist!

[TheGrandMom]

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FFXIV will not have AH's! Could this lead to a fair economy?

In all fairness, Jenova did not make this title. I changed the title to this.

[Feba]

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Same basic concept, anyway.


Sympathizer.

[Yellow Mage]

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In all fairness, Jenova did not make this title. I changed the title to this.

Haven't read thread yet (just got back from a short vacation and going through all the new threads), but I have to say that it is still an incredibly loaded title that made me think of jenova and facepalm nonetheless.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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Socialist!

I was gonna a say it myself, but since you identify with the ideal more, I thought I'd let you call it.

I get really tired of the "everything should be equal" attitude for MMORPGs. And life, but this is an MMORPG, so I'll stick to that.

If you have little time to play, you're going to pay the same fees as everyone else, but you will be limited from how much you can get out of the game. You should not be rewarded with the same awesome things that other people worked harder to get, which in this case, they spent more time on their asses playing than you did. Still "work," though.

Should I be blessed with a Kirin's Osode for logging in a little every night? No. I'm not in a sky LS and what time I've had, I've been in campaign. At most, I'm entitled to a Cobra Unit Harness when I have the points and the rank for it. If you find yourself lusting for Limbus gear or stuff from ZNMs or Einherjar, then you better find a way to get in on that with the time you have - otherwise, tough shit. If you don't have the initiative to make effecitive use of your time or lead groups to help you get the things you want, you don't deserve those things.

That aside, I wouldn't mind seeing a little more self-control in regards to making new FFXIV topics. I'm excited as the next guy, but we seriously do not need a new topic filled with wild speculation for every little detail that comes out. TGM is doing a great job maintaining a comprehensive thread of info about the game.

In fact, if we could keep it like the News on FFXI section, that would be a lot cleaner. Post the actual information in the initial post, date it and credit the source if needed. Who, what, when, where, why and how. After that, we can speculate in the discussion that follows and mods can merge and edit as needed. All that's needed when reporting this news is to present the information, not let us know how excited and biased you are about it.

So, do it like the press used to do it versus how they do it now. More Walter Cronkite, less Fox News, CNN and blogging/facebook mentalities.

[TheGrandMom]

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Haven't read thread yet (just got back from a short vacation and going through all the new threads), but I have to say that it is still an incredibly loaded title that made me think of jenova and facepalm nonetheless.

Well I tried to keep it as close to the original title as possible. People tend to get pissed when things are edited so I try to piss them off as little as possilbe. LOL

[Feba]

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the ideal

Uh.


Huh?

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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(You were an Obama voter).

[Kimani]

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~ Sighs ~
I rid myself of this thread of assumptions.

[Ziero]

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Hey leave her alone she's excited lol.

Kinky?

And I agree with OMG on the whole "You get out what you put in" aspects of an MMO. Everyone shouldn't have the same thing, those who put more time and effort in should get more rewards. And this is coming from someone who doesn't do the endgame stuff and mainly sits around in my MH watching a drunken moogle spin around for hours. When I do try to get something accomplished, chances are I'll get what I want. Which is as it should be, when you work towards something you should get your rewards. And if you put in more work then the other guy, you should get more back.

[Takelli]

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Which is as it should be, when you work towards something you should get your rewards. And if you put in more work then the other guy, you should get more back.

But... Thats not how it works in FFXI though. You camp a NM for three weeks on end and not get the drop. A Random guy comes in and kills it, and gets the drop.

How is that saying... "The more time you spend doing somthing, the better reward that you get."? Its happened to me plenty of times, and I've given up on camping any and all NMS now as I will kill them for weeks on end, and then some one comes in and kills it on me and gets the drop. And its their FIRST time killing it.

[Grizzlebeard]

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How is that saying... "The more time you spend doing somthing, the better reward that you get."? Its happened to me plenty of times, and I've given up on camping any and all NMS now as I will kill them for weeks on end, and then some one comes in and kills it on me and gets the drop. And its their FIRST time killing it.

That's not about challenge yielding to a better reward though, it's about making a tiny amount of content last far longer than it should due to ridiculous drop rates. The game is full of instances of that ranging from camping Mee Deggi through to events like Salvage and not forgetting the bullshit that is swift belt.

[Takelli]

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That's not about challenge yielding to a better reward though, it's about making a tiny amount of content last far longer than it should due to ridiculous drop rates.

Yes, but that is rediculis. At least let the person get the drop after the 50th time of no drops instead of saying... "Hahaha... I have a .4% drop rate and the person besides you will get the drop!"

Making content last longer than what it normally would is nice, but making it last 50X longer due to crappy drop rates, or monsters taking hours upon hours to spawn is the worst way to do it.

If they want players to stay hooked, the mosnters should have a decent drop rate, and stuff should be easy, yet challenging at the same time, not tedius like most of the crap has become in the game. Or, they can atleast make it fun, so you enjoy camping NMS, and waiting for them to spawn. Enjoy doing end game stuff for good gear, so you can do the funner stuff, and finish up missions. Not just have it so its like a second job.

[Pwnagraphic]

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Kinky?

Ha..