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  • Re: The *ahem* OFFICIAL "FINAL FANTASY XIV Online" Thread of Ultimate Anticipation!

    Originally posted by Malacite View Post
    I demand Six-Axis fishing and being able to actually see the fish (i.e. your character holds it in front of them for a few seconds after reeling it in.)
    Six-axis control? That would be kinda hard. The only game that actually utilizes it, is L.A.I.R., and it did a decent job of it, but other than that, the controlls sucked, and so did the game IMO. It has a Z,Y, and Z axis that you where able to utiliza.

    But where as FF games usually have only X, and Y axises, unless they allow you to jump, or comand your own flying ship like they have in other FF games, but allow you to travel on the Z axis as well. But as for using Six-Axis for FFXIV... I don't think it would be a good idea.

    It would be hard to program that for the PC, and the PS3, and if they decide to do it for the X-Box (I don't think they even have use of a Six-Axis controller). And before any of you say... "The PC has a mouse." The mouse isnt the same as Six-Axis, as you can only use it to move the X and Y axises.

    But if they did find a way to utilize it then... that would be interesting in how they used it... As long as they don't make it so that you use it to walk... :/

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    • Re: The *ahem* OFFICIAL "FINAL FANTASY XIV Online" Thread of Ultimate Anticipation!

      Originally posted by Kailea View Post
      FFXI and FFXIV are both console MMORPGs, designed with a controller in mind.
      I'll not disagree that FFXI was designed originally for the PS2 with the controller in mind (the obviously highly inefficient setup with the mouse attests to that), but where are you getting that FFXIV is being designed from the ground up as a console MMO, with the controller in mind?

      This is a serious question, not me being sarcastic. It seems that using things like Six-Axis would be highly disrespectful to those who only have a PC to play FFXIV, since they stated from the get-go that they plan to release it on Windows.

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      • Re: The *ahem* OFFICIAL "FINAL FANTASY XIV Online" Thread of Ultimate Anticipation!

        Originally posted by Takelli View Post
        Six-axis control? That would be kinda hard. The only game that actually utilizes it, is L.A.I.R., and it did a decent job of it, but other than that, the controlls sucked, and so did the game IMO. It has a Z,Y, and Z axis that you where able to utiliza.
        Folklore (I think) it did well on the six-axis controls. You used the six-axis ocntrols like fishing but you fished for the souls of the defeated creatures.
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        • Re: The *ahem* OFFICIAL "FINAL FANTASY XIV Online" Thread of Ultimate Anticipation!

          Originally posted by Kaziel0 View Post
          I'll not disagree that FFXI was designed originally for the PS2 with the controller in mind (the obviously highly inefficient setup with the mouse attests to that), but where are you getting that FFXIV is being designed from the ground up as a console MMO, with the controller in mind?

          This is a serious question, not me being sarcastic. It seems that using things like Six-Axis would be highly disrespectful to those who only have a PC to play FFXIV, since they stated from the get-go that they plan to release it on Windows.
          Well SE said it themselves, "we want to allow players to transfer to FFXIV as smoothly as possible" Its one of the main reasons why the races are the same, and most likely a controller would be a better choice then a mouse and keyboard. That and since FFXIV will be on both PC and PS3 (maybe 360) they would create a control setup that would be used on all three.
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          • Re: The *ahem* OFFICIAL "FINAL FANTASY XIV Online" Thread of Ultimate Anticipation!

            Originally posted by Kailea View Post
            Well SE said it themselves, "we want to allow players to transfer to FFXIV as smoothly as possible" Its one of the main reasons why the races are the same, and most likely a controller would be a better choice then a mouse and keyboard. That and since FFXIV will be on both PC and PS3 (maybe 360) they would create a control setup that would be used on all three.
            But why would they bother with a Six-Axis control? Theres not really much you can do with it IMO that I can think of. Besides using it to control a flying ship, while using the joysticks to aim the cannons... (Stops before getting more ideas...)

            Originally posted by Losrase View Post
            Folklore (I think) it did well on the six-axis controls. You used the six-axis ocntrols like fishing but you fished for the souls of the defeated creatures.
            Maybe I'll look it up. But I don't think that Fishing with a Six-Axis would be fairly easy...

            Hmmm...

            Maybe they will have the six-axis work like the LoZ thats on the Wii... You swing the wii remote, and Link swings his sword...

            But then again... You'd have issues accessing menues lol

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            • Re: The *ahem* OFFICIAL "FINAL FANTASY XIV Online" Thread of Ultimate Anticipation!

              Originally posted by Kailea View Post
              That and since FFXIV will be on both PC and PS3 (maybe 360) they would create a control setup that would be used on all three.
              I seem to have been unclear in my meaning. I apologize. I didn't mean that they would design it around the keyboard and mouse alone. Really, I expect them to design for both (all three?), and introducing mechanics which only work for a single system (whether it be controlling the camera via the mouse or making something using the Six-Axis controller for fishing) seems like a bad design and I'm thinking that SE is going for the broadest market they can (basing this idea on the greater emphasis on solo-play).

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              • Re: The *ahem* OFFICIAL "FINAL FANTASY XIV Online" Thread of Ultimate Anticipation!

                Originally posted by Takelli View Post
                But why would they bother with a Six-Axis control? Theres not really much you can do with it IMO that I can think of. Besides using it to control a flying ship, while using the joysticks to aim the cannons... (Stops before getting more ideas...)



                Maybe I'll look it up. But I don't think that Fishing with a Six-Axis would be fairly easy...

                Hmmm...

                Maybe they will have the six-axis work like the LoZ thats on the Wii... You swing the wii remote, and Link swings his sword...

                But then again... You'd have issues accessing menues lol

                oh I dont see them using the six-axis at all honestly
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                • Re: The *ahem* OFFICIAL "FINAL FANTASY XIV Online" Thread of Ultimate Anticipation!

                  Originally posted by Kailea View Post
                  h I dont see them using the six-axis at all honestly
                  But... but... but... What if they want to have the First MMORPG that is semi-VR! ;>.>

                  Its SE... You never know what they will do.

                  But I do think that using Six-Axis is kinda bad. I'm just waiting to Sony to make a helmet that can play your games with that. Hook it up to your PS3, and you use your controler to control your character.

                  Oblivion will be good with that... FPS games as well. VR isn't that far off in actuality.

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                  • Re: The *ahem* OFFICIAL "FINAL FANTASY XIV Online" Thread of Ultimate Anticipation!

                    Originally posted by Takelli View Post
                    But... but... but... What if they want to have the First MMORPG that is semi-VR! ;>.>

                    Its SE... You never know what they will do.

                    But I do think that using Six-Axis is kinda bad. I'm just waiting to Sony to make a helmet that can play your games with that. Hook it up to your PS3, and you use your controler to control your character.

                    Oblivion will be good with that... FPS games as well. VR isn't that far off in actuality.

                    the way the big three work... I would see Nintendo doing that first
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                    • Re: The *ahem* OFFICIAL "FINAL FANTASY XIV Online" Thread of Ultimate Anticipation!

                      Originally posted by Kailea View Post
                      the way the big three work... I would see Nintendo doing that first
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                      Yea. Thats a shame though. Most of Nintendo is doing games for younger people. I don't want to have VR in a younger kids game. But once it comes out though... The possiblities...

                      Ever see .hack? VR like that wouldn't be too far if a company came out with VR like that...

                      I found some where though, that Sony is doing research for VR type stuff. Never know until it happens though.

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                      • Re: The *ahem* OFFICIAL "FINAL FANTASY XIV Online" Thread of Ultimate Anticipation!

                        Originally posted by Takelli View Post
                        Yea. Thats a shame though. Most of Nintendo is doing games for younger people. I don't want to have VR in a younger kids game. But once it comes out though... The possiblities...

                        Ever see .hack? VR like that wouldn't be too far if a company came out with VR like that...

                        I found some where though, that Sony is doing research for VR type stuff. Never know until it happens though.
                        Silent Hill
                        Mad World
                        Resident Evil
                        House of the Dead

                        and many more would like to disagree with that ;p

                        Just because Nintendo does "kid stuff" does not meant the Nintendo tech would not be put to better use ;p
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                        • Re: The *ahem* OFFICIAL "FINAL FANTASY XIV Online" Thread of Ultimate Anticipation!

                          Originally posted by Kailea View Post
                          Silent Hill
                          Mad World
                          Resident Evil
                          House of the Dead

                          and many more would like to disagree with that ;p

                          Just because Nintendo does "kid stuff" does not meant the Nintendo tech would not be put to better use ;p
                          lol. most of the commercials though for Wii games, and such are more for kids, and they are showing less and less mature type games advertised for the wii. I didn't mean to say it does only stuff for kids, just that is how the company seems. Boom Blox, Monster Truck (Pure noise... nothing else and my 4 year old nephew used to play it all the time...), Monkey Ball...

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                          • Re: The *ahem* OFFICIAL "FINAL FANTASY XIV Online" Thread of Ultimate Anticipation!

                            hey Boom Blox is fun ;p

                            but yeah I know what ya mean
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                            • Re: The *ahem* OFFICIAL "FINAL FANTASY XIV Online" Thread of Ultimate Anticipation!

                              Here's hoping for a better inventory system this time around!

                              And no/less need for gear swaps! Please no more animation locks either SE, would be nice if we didn't need Blink-Me-Not or specially timed macros to avoid this.
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                              • Re: The *ahem* OFFICIAL "FINAL FANTASY XIV Online" Thread of Ultimate Anticipation!

                                Originally posted by Malacite View Post
                                Here's hoping for a better inventory system this time around!

                                And no/less need for gear swaps! Please no more animation locks either SE, would be nice if we didn't need Blink-Me-Not or specially timed macros to avoid this.
                                well alot of that was "PS2 limitations" so thats no worry... and I DARE them to say PS3 limitations ;p
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