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  • #31
    Re: New Age Healer Question. Whm Vs Sch?

    Originally posted by ospeff View Post
    you are an amateur.
    Yes yes. Why the fuck are you even still here? Don't you have another 75 to level?




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    • #32
      Re: New Age Healer Question. Whm Vs Sch?

      I think that for the next update they should give whm a 10% potency in healing at level 50, 20% potency at 60 and 30% at 70. (non stacking) On top of that, they should give them a -5% emnity at 50, -10% emnity at 60 and -20% emnity at 70. (non stacking)

      Whm fix done.
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      • #33
        Re: New Age Healer Question. Whm Vs Sch?

        Originally posted by Omniblast View Post
        I think that for the next update they should give whm a 10% potency in healing at level 50, 20% potency at 60 and 30% at 70. (non stacking) On top of that, they should give them a -5% emnity at 50, -10% emnity at 60 and -20% emnity at 70. (non stacking)

        Whm fix done.
        No no.

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        Just to piss RDMs off.

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        • #34
          Re: New Age Healer Question. Whm Vs Sch?

          Question.

          Let's say you have Stoneskin and Phalanx up and it will protect you for 201, and some mob hits you for 200 damage. Since you have Stoneskin and Phalanx up it registers as 0 damage. Do you lose any enmity from this hit?


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          • #35
            Re: New Age Healer Question. Whm Vs Sch?

            I'm pretty sure there would be no enmity loss in that case. It pisses mobs off when they whiff or hit you for zero damage.




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            • #36
              Re: New Age Healer Question. Whm Vs Sch?

              Originally posted by Andrinor View Post
              I think the next job Ospeff out to level to 75 is Tact. He'll have to unlock it first. Seriously man, you have a good argument, why hamper it by being an ass about it? It doesn't impress anyone here.

              Personally I could care less whether I'm being main-healed by a SCH, WHM, RDM or SMN. I've seen crappy players on all of them who have no clue at all, and I've seen excellent players on all of them who make what tools they have work their best. If you're doing your best at any of these healing jobs, chances are the party will be just fine and we're just bickering about nuances.
              I'm being an ass because Ameroth is following me around every thread trying to start crap with me. He is mad I prove all his points wrong and just keeps digging himself deeper.

              ---------- Post added at 12:05 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:02 PM ----------

              Originally posted by Omniblast View Post
              I think that for the next update they should give whm a 10% potency in healing at level 50, 20% potency at 60 and 30% at 70. (non stacking) On top of that, they should give them a -5% emnity at 50, -10% emnity at 60 and -20% emnity at 70. (non stacking)

              Whm fix done.
              No it's fine the way it is with 3 capable healers, that would make WHM too superior.

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              • #37
                Re: New Age Healer Question. Whm Vs Sch?

                Originally posted by ospeff View Post
                I'm being an ass because Ameroth is following me around every thread trying to start crap with me. He is mad I prove all his points wrong and just keeps digging himself deeper.
                It's great that I have so easily gotten under your skin. I'm not so much as starting shit with you as I am simply responding to the bullshit you post. For that I'm guilty, but I don't apologize. You still don't get it though. With everything you feel you need to prove to everyone else, you have completely missed the whole thing.




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                • #38
                  Re: New Age Healer Question. Whm Vs Sch?

                  Originally posted by ospeff View Post
                  I'm being an ass.
                  FTFY

                  You claim that people are bringing stuff from the other closed topic into this one, however you refuse to let the other topic die so you are carrying grudges across the board and attacking people combatively. IMO if you would've just ignored what Wise Donkey said and not took offense (It was funny and it was said in a joking manner) originally the other topic wouldn't have become mayhem.... Now you feel like the world is against you. I have nothing to add to this topic but i like all mages.

                  Can't we all just get along?
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                  • #39
                    Re: New Age Healer Question. Whm Vs Sch?

                    I'm not carrying it over, he is. He is upset I am better an more experienced at a videogame. It's sad.

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                    • #40
                      Re: New Age Healer Question. Whm Vs Sch?

                      Originally posted by Vyuru View Post
                      Question.

                      Let's say you have Stoneskin and Phalanx up and it will protect you for 201, and some mob hits you for 200 damage. Since you have Stoneskin and Phalanx up it registers as 0 damage. Do you lose any enmity from this hit?
                      No enmity is lost from damage against Stoneskin or Blink shadows. This was about the first thing somebody proved in the course of enmity testing, so they could use that fact to do later tests without worrying about changing numbers.

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                      • #41
                        Re: New Age Healer Question. Whm Vs Sch?

                        Cool, thanks!


                        You have the right to remain silent, anything you say can and will be misqouted and then used against you.

                        I don't have a big ego, it just has a large mouth.

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                        • #42
                          Re: New Age Healer Question. Whm Vs Sch?

                          To be honest the whole WHM vs SCH debate is as pointless as the PLD vs NIN debate. At the end of the day both classes do the same thing and both do it very well:

                          WHM: Heals damage as it's caused, has access to the highest tier Prot/Shell spells and can AoE them without having to burn up a strat, native access to Aoe cures, has native access to AoE Barspells, has the best regens and raises, has access to every -na spell, can contribute to party damage in melee at the expense of the healer being inside AoE range.

                          SCH: Focuses more on preventing damage than healing. Can choose to AoE many of the buffs and healing spells it accesses from subjobs, can cut down on the cost, cast time and recast time of spells, has exclusive access to a potent AoE Regen (not sure how much Paeon V and Dancer's Roll restore per tic), can contribute to overall party damage by nuking at the expense of the MP cost and recasting time of White Magic.

                          Due to the focus on preventing damage SCH is much more suitable for fast paced meleeburns and merit parties since most people in meripos tend to be /NIN anyway. WHM is more suited for where the tank will be taking damage and lots of it such as BCNMs, Missions, fighting NMs, Dynamis and the like. At the end of the day it's down to what the party needs. Is the party going to be killing things quickly without resting? Then you want a SCH for damage mitigation. Are you going to be fighting something that will probably just tear through the buffs you throw up and/or hits like an 18-wheeler? Then you'll be wanting a WHM to heal all of that damage.

                          I haven't read the whole thread due to the random arguing that broke out but has anyone mentioned WHM having Erase natively while SCH needs to sub WHM to access it? That is a very important thing worth noting as to be honest Erase is one of the more important WHM spells in the game IMO.
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                          • #43
                            Re: New Age Healer Question. Whm Vs Sch?

                            Any more bickering will be dealt with brutally.

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                            • #44
                              Re: New Age Healer Question. Whm Vs Sch?

                              why is 201 dmg migrate so much better then Whm aggro less general healing.

                              And Devotion ROCKS. Where is the "devotion" love around here?

                              You should compare "aggro healing" consider WHM beat rdms in spam healing fight.
                              -add later-

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                              • #45
                                Re: New Age Healer Question. Whm Vs Sch?

                                Originally posted by wrongfeifong View Post
                                why is 201 dmg migrate so much better then Whm aggro less general healing.

                                And Devotion ROCKS. Where is the "devotion" love around here?

                                You should compare "aggro healing" consider WHM beat rdms in spam healing fight.
                                I gave devotion love; read above!

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