Whm/smn?

[TheGrandMom]

Re: Whm/smn?

TGM: 7 chars?! And ppl called me nuts for having two....
<.<; I'm already seeing doubts of doing my plan for an elvaan chick as a blm to 75 as a 3rd char. I bow to the greater multi-char player

Ya, I'd get to thinking "I wonder how rdm would be on a Elvaan...." and then I'd end up making an Elvaan and trying it. Then I started up with melee jobs and wanted to try them on Elvaan, Hume, Mithra, and Galka. It's like an addiction I swear. lol

I did enjoy WHM/BRD for about 10 levels from 20-30 off and on. A lot of people required me to sub BLM for some odd reason though and I just gave up after 30th. I'm sure WHM/BRD is also very good in parties with multiple mages after 50th with Ballad--at least one step above /SMN since instead of just you, everyone gets free Refresh.

I like subbing /brd for a challange but its not something that people want most of the time. I've been told too often to change my sub so now I don't even bother. Also with /brd you are one busy bee!! lol

So, heres what i plan on doing.
WHM/BLM Until WHM is level thirty.
Then
WHM/SCH

WHAT SERVER SHOULD I JOIN! :O
I was thinking Bahamut because someone told me that there was a good LS there for new people and the people on the server were very welcoming but then some say the opposite. Please dont be Biassed!
Thankies Again (and again)
Chaddie!

Let me amend that a bit:

WHM till 18 (if you have all sub job items by then - it's a quest)
Then BLM/WHM until 15
Then WHM/BLM till 30
Then SCH/WHM until 37
Then WHM/SCH all the way up!

As far as servers, its really a crap shoot. Choose whatever one you think sounds good to you. Try going to the individual server forums and posting on there asking how busy the server is, etc. You could also look at some forum members profiles to see what server they are on and PM them. Good luck!

[Icemage]

Re: Whm/smn?

Quick question on arts. Dark Arts while subbing sch on whm, would that allow effect drain/aspirs compared tp that of /blm and /drk? I just gotta ask that.

Yes, it really does. Tack on a Dark Staff and watch as your Drains and Aspirs hit like a BLM's.


Icemage

[Pteryx]

Re: Whm/smn?

Once again thanks for clearing all these things up!
O and just one more question.
WHAT SERVER SHOULD I JOIN! :O

If you don't have friends on any servers already, it really doesn't matter. FFXI, unlike many MMOs, doesn't have special-purpose servers -- no PvP vs. PvE, RP, or language-specific servers. All the servers are a stew of every type and quality of player. -- Pteryx

[Malacite]

Re: Whm/smn?

Dark Arts boosts those skills (and caps them) to a B rating relative to your main job's level.

[Chaddie]

Re: Whm/smn?

Thanks everyone for all the information.

So while my brain tries to take in all the abbrev. and things that make no sense to me let me get this straight.

WHM Till level 18.
Then level up as BLM/WHM Till the BLM is level 15.
Then WHM/BLM Till level 30
Then SCH/WHM Till SCH is 37
Then WHM/SCH :D

Thats correct?
Kinda hard for me to understand im new to all this stuff lol.

Yea with the servers ill go with Bahamut. :D
Just want to find some australian players thats all :x...

Once again (again, again) Thanks for all the help!

[Coinspinner]

Re: Whm/smn?

Thanks everyone for all the information.
So while my brain tries to take in all the abbrev. and things that make no sense to me let me get this straight.
WHM Till level 18.
Then level up as BLM/WHM Till the BLM is level 15.
Then WHM/BLM Till level 30
Then SCH/WHM Till SCH is 37
Then WHM/SCH :D
Thats correct?
Kinda hard for me to understand im new to all this stuff lol.
Yea with the servers ill go with Bahamut. :D
Just want to find some australian players thats all :x...
Once again (again, again) Thanks for all the help!

BLM/WHM to 17, not 15. You want Warp.

[TheGrandMom]

Re: Whm/smn?

WHM Till level 18.
Then level up as BLM/WHM Till the BLM is level 15.
Then WHM/BLM Till level 30
Then SCH/WHM Till SCH is 37
Then WHM/SCH :D
Thats correct?
Kinda hard for me to understand im new to all this stuff lol.

Here let me explain why. Ok for your first job you always level until level 18 (at least) because thats when you are able to do a quest that gives you your sub job. You will need to collect 3 items in order to complete it. Sometimes you'll go over level 18 because it can take a while to obtain one of the sub job items so don't worry if that happens.

Once you can open up your sub jobs, you'll want to level one up. (I'll use whm/blm as our example.) If you don't then when you equip your sub job it will be whm18/blm1....thats a little gimp! LOL Your sub job level is always 1/2 of your main job's level providing you have it leveled that high. If you level your blm to 10 and your whm's level is 30, then you would be whm30/blm10....again a little gimped! So try to keep your sub job leveled evenly with your main job. In that example it would have to be leveled to level 15. (As has been suggested, you might want to level up your blm to 17. At that level you can get a spell called warp. It will take you back to your homepoint so it saves you a lot of time.)

So once your blm is leveled to 15, then you can switch back to whm and keep leveling it until 30 and never have a gimped sub job. At 30, you can open scholar! Back to the beginning again!! Sch1/whm1 LOL Now you can level scholar all the way to 37 (that's as high as a sub job goes) and sub whm all the way.

Once you have scholar to 37, you can switch back to whm (if you want to!) and continue to level your whm all the way to 75 and not have to worry about your sub job. Whm75/Sch37! Now you can go back and level up blm or sch to 75 if you like or try some other jobs! There are just not enough hours in the day sometimes! Always remember though...HAVE FUN!! That is the most important rule!

[Malacite]

Re: Whm/smn?

Even though SCH will be the optimal sub now most of the time, you may want to level BLM to 37 anyway. It's still a very useful sub to have for a number of situations, and you may end up liking it enough to take it further ^^

BLM is very good for end game activities and instanced battles (BCNMs, etc) and best of all, can solo very quickly off of BST pets (though some of the camps are quite risky)

[Chaddie]

Re: Whm/smn?

Thanks mommy! I Understand the job system now.

Malacite i will Definately be levelling BLM to 75.
Phew well im finally ingame now, (6 Hours Later)

Phynks - Male TaruTaru - Bahamut - Level 2 WHM WOOT!

Wish me luck!

[Olorin401]

Re: Whm/smn?

The only thing that gets to me about /SCH is the job is so horrible on its own I don't even want to level it.

Ah well, guess I'll hafta get in the mood for it won't I?

[Truece]

Re: Whm/smn?

Yes, it really does. Tack on a Dark Staff and watch as your Drains and Aspirs hit like a BLM's.


Icemage

It makes dynamis so much easier, and the aspirs are more effective than /SMN 20MP/min auto-refresh or one good aspir once every 10 mins as /BLM. Once you /SCH, you'll never go back!

[Malacite]

Re: Whm/smn?

The only thing that gets to me about /SCH is the job is so horrible on its own I don't even want to level it.

Ah well, guess I'll hafta get in the mood for it won't I?

You couldn't be more wrong.

[Coinspinner]

Re: Whm/smn?

You couldn't be more wrong.

He's on the money actually. 1-16 on SCH is dreadful. 16-32 is basically RDM with slightly more MP (IE, a gimp WHM or BLM). Between 32 and 40 there's just no hiding how half-assed the job is.

[Malacite]

Re: Whm/smn?

If you're that narrow minded that you can't see how to make the best of the job with the right food and SJ, then you might just want to quit right now

It learns nukes faster than RDM, has higher skill (with dark arts up) and gets regen very early. Honestly, sub BLM (20+) eat +1 pies (or Goblin Mushpots if /WHM and using enfeebs) and see for yourself. I did just fine 1-30 as an elvaan SCH.

The job's got some nice spells and abilities the further up you go. Don't be so quick to shoot it down.

[Coinspinner]

Re: Whm/smn?

I'm sorry, but I did just that. 1-16 is completely awful any way you look at it. 16-32 it doesn't matter much, SCH is adequate, but you are still either weaker or have less utility, usually both. Then RDM gets Dispel. I suppose that might leave SCH ahead of SMN, I've never seen a SMN LFP and only once grouped with one outside of mission and BCNM.