Lv75 Merit Ability: Devotion

[kuu]

Re: Lv75 Merit Ability: Devotion

You're all forgetting even if mp is meh, you instantly goto yellow hp.

Medicine ring access instantly. A little annoying with auto-regen, but nothing a little hp swaping won't hurt(which you would want to do anyway)

[Icemage]

Re: Lv75 Merit Ability: Devotion

You're all forgetting even if mp is meh, you instantly goto yellow hp.

Medicine ring access instantly. A little annoying with auto-regen, but nothing a little hp swaping won't hurt(which you would want to do anyway)

Yep. That's another good reason to buy 1 level of Martyr too, for similar reasons. It's not that it gives such a tremendous boost, it's that instant access to Medicine Ring that makes it nifty.


Icemage

[kuu]

Re: Lv75 Merit Ability: Devotion

Just be glad blms can't do it, or they would be saying OMG! Sorcerers ring! +10 mattk bonus.

And promply see a line of dead taru blms after AoE,

[Icemage]

Re: Lv75 Merit Ability: Devotion

Just be glad blms can't do it, or they would be saying OMG! Sorcerers ring! +10 mattk bonus.

And promply see a line of dead taru blms after AoE,

LOL. They don't need a -HP ability to make that happen. Wouldn't change a thing anyway, for most of them. One of the Taru BLMs in my LS can get down below 400HP at level 75...


Icemage

[TheMidg]

Re: Lv75 Merit Ability: Devotion

Just be glad blms can't do it, or they would be saying OMG! Sorcerers ring! +10 mattk bonus.

And promply see a line of dead taru blms after AoE,

That reminds me of taru WHMs using zenith on faf/nid lol

[Karinya]

Re: Lv75 Merit Ability: Devotion

Yep. That's another good reason to buy 1 level of Martyr too, for similar reasons. It's not that it gives such a tremendous boost, it's that instant access to Medicine Ring that makes it nifty.

Well, Martyr is also nifty for being a heal with no MP cost or cast time that can be used while silenced. If it also takes 1/4 of your current HP, then it will heal for 1/2 your current HP, which can be close to the Cure V range.

The next time I tank a Vanguard Grappler, I bet it won't be the medicine ring that makes me wish my WHMs have Martyr.

[kuu]

Re: Lv75 Merit Ability: Devotion

That reminds me of taru WHMs using zenith on faf/nid lol

We used to have one of those. He gave up after his 10th death in dyanmis. Death by diaga we call it.

On the other hand everytime he died we got an AF2...soo

[Shanisasha]

Re: Lv75 Merit Ability: Devotion

I have heard that if you have stoneskin up at the time you use Devotion, it buffers how much HP you loose.

Stoneskin -> Devotion might be a feasible way of action if you're following it up with Martyr

[Herrisa]

Re: Lv75 Merit Ability: Devotion

Stoneskin does negate the hp loss when using Devotion.

I was using Devotion on the other mage in my party and was giving her 230~260 mp. With stoneskin up I wasn't losing any hp or if I was, it was so minute I didn't even notice. When stoneskin wasn't up it would put me in the borderline yellow.


Edit: I wonder what would happen if you had less than 100 hp and used either Martyr or Devotion, or even both. Does it stop at 1 hp or would you kill yourself?

[Icemage]

Re: Lv75 Merit Ability: Devotion

Edit: I wonder what would happen if you had less than 100 hp and used either Martyr or Devotion, or even both. Does it stop at 1 hp or would you kill yourself?

Just a guess but it would probably simply just fail (the same way Convert fails if you have exactly 0 MP).


Icemage

[Murphie]

Re: Lv75 Merit Ability: Devotion

Someone I know in game was complaining today that Devotion is only 25% of current HP. That's a considerable bonus, if used strategically. Any mage I know would be glad as hell to get that much of an MP bonus suddenly.

[Macht]

Re: Lv75 Merit Ability: Devotion

Stoneskin does negate the hp loss when using Devotion.

I was using Devotion on the other mage in my party and was giving her 230~260 mp. With stoneskin up I wasn't losing any hp or if I was, it was so minute I didn't even notice. When stoneskin wasn't up it would put me in the borderline yellow.


Edit: I wonder what would happen if you had less than 100 hp and used either Martyr or Devotion, or even both. Does it stop at 1 hp or would you kill yourself?

If it is taking a percentage of your HP it should still work just less effective. If both take 25% of your current HP then that means the first one you use would take 25 HP and the second would take 18 HP (Leaving you with 57HP). Though getting an 18-25 MP boost or 36-50 HP boost might not be a tremendous amount of help to the members.

Basically if it's doing by percentage then from 100 HP if you could use continuously should drop then like : 75HP, 57HP, 43HP, 33HP, 25HP, 19HP, 15HP, 12HP, etc...

What I wonder is if it's really a percentage of the current HP then what will it do in the 1-7 range, because 25% in there 1-3 would return 0 and 4-7 would be 1.

If the 4-7 range does give someone only 1 MP back from Devotion, then depending how dire the situation is with a RDM that happened to of 0'd their MP and has HP for a convert. Kind of a wasteful use but drop that 1 MP into their bucket if they have no refresh or anything to get it back and need it badly. Very unlikely situation to occure, but whatever.

[Tevabond]

Re: Lv75 Merit Ability: Devotion

well 6 merits in the category 2 in martyer and 2 in devotion and the pro/shell i think SE balanced the new abilities well. we have it better then blms 1 in every lvl 2 AM and rdms 1 in every lvl 2 Enfeeble. sometimes it rox to be a whm

[Rayvlin]

Re: Lv75 Merit Ability: Devotion

I have both martyr and devotion, the only complaints i have is the long recast time even when merited. When you master the abilities and place a priority of use it can be a god send and a party savior. With a cor in the pt recast isn't an issue at all. BTW about priority do it situation by situations. For me it's generally plds>rdms>mages>anyone else but this isn't hard set and just a guild line

[WishMaster3K]

Re: Lv75 Merit Ability: Devotion

I always invite WHM + NIN + 3 Melees now. Bards can kiss my taru ass, lol.

It's a shame RDM diidn't get Devotion. But I guess we'd be reborn as the New Crack, lol

Devotion kicks so much ass that it's unreal. I WHM and WHM me. It's a perfect Circle.