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    There's been this level 55ish group in Kuftal over the last few days, they have a white mage whose name is "Whottont" and every 15 seconds, he'll spam a /say comment going "my name is Whottont"(which I find freaking annoying but I don't like to blacklist people either). They try to kill lizards and crabs but they're very bad at it. So one day I see a level 75 party in Gustav and no surprise, Guivre pops 10 seconds later and promptly eats the entire party. Whereupon they start spamming me for raise requests (I don't go anon cause I like to help people) and demand raise 2, which I oblige with. I tell them that you need to cast sneak and invis and suddenly it becomes apparent that only 2 of the people in that party move at any one time - it's 2 people on 6 computers. And they all get eaten again, no surprise, and start spamming me for more raise requests.

    I raise a random level 65+ NA summoner, he tells me to raise a friend, I go find him and run across a dark knight first. I don't know his level and don't like to check people, so I ask the DRK what level he is in BOTH japanese and english. No reply. So I tractortractortractorraise 3 the dark knight, the dark knight doesn't acknowledge my existence and runs off. And then I find that the smn's friend just hped and guivre has eaten the smn again. And one member from the NA party is spamming me for a third raise 2 (he died for the third time).

    The worst part of the entire mess was that they HAD a white mage (Whottont) and I raised 2ed the white mage only to have them expect me to raise 2 their entire party since the WHM was only level 54. I oblige but I make the fatal mistake of alternating with Raise 3 because I want to reduce downtime since Raise 2 has a stupid cooldown. 1 member starts demanding Raise 3 instead, but I only have enough MP for raise 2 and a sneak/invis left, so I tell him Raise 3 won't work and throw him Raise 2, which he doesn't accept, completely wasting my mp. At this point, I tell them I have a life to get back to, escape out ASAP and stick on /anon. The best part? That person who refused raise 2 starts swearing and threatens to call a GM on me, and I get tells from the RDM asking for YET another raise. Since when did casting a lower level raise on someone become a violation of the ToS? =_=;

    If you wanted to play whm to help people, It's frankly not worth it.
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  • #2
    Sounds like a bunch of gil sellers. >_>

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    • #3
      Argh, you have them on your server too? The gil sellers are usually another party though. They all seem to play DRG, stay around 24/7 camping Kote, Ame, Sniper etc, don't speak English or Japanese and they MPK people.

      Best thing I've found is to sub BST, charm the placeholder slime/lizard/whatever and go fishing while they wait 8 hours wondering why the NM isn't popping. Hopefully IGE will go bankrupt and leave our server alone.
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      • #4
        Oh yeah, Chinese gil farmers, Odin has plenty of them. /sigh. Stupid bots.
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        • #5
          You were to kind you didn't even have to use Raise 2 to start with let them reject the raise it's their lost anyway. The last I checked you the kind white mage were doing those bots a favor not the other way around. The next time you get into a situation like that hopefully you will not but if you don't go anon just type /away that will block the crap they have to say. Then warp out or go about your business you don't owe them a thing to start with. I just hope I don't run into such a problem like that... If I do it wouldn't stop me from being a white mage at all.

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          • #6
            I suggest the following

            1) Standing amonst their dead corpses and type /s hahahaaha.
            2) Explain to anyone who tries to raise them they are gil farmers and don't deserve a raise.
            3) Repeat for one hour
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            • #7
              - Raising anyone more than once is way above and beyond, except perhaps with very mitigating circumstances. If someone is dying twice in the same zone, they're doing something terribly wrong.

              - I'll Raise another WHM, or a SMN or RDM if the other party does not have a WHM. I will not Raise their other party members while I am in an active XP party. You want high level Raises, you bring your own WHM -> I have 5 people waiting for me back at camp who will not be understanding about me running off to help "the competition".

              - Anyone who threatens to call a GM for failing to receive a Raise III instead of a Raise II gets an immediate interrupted spell. They're asking for a favor. Talk about biting the hand that feeds?


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              • #8
                Originally posted by Icemage

                - Anyone who threatens to call a GM for failing to receive a Raise III instead of a Raise II ....

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                Dang, Ive heard of some pretty crazy ass reasons for calling a GM, but that has got to top the list....

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                • #9
                  Well some people can be extreemly demanding and very awful when they don't get it (Like spoiled brats). If someone requests something from me and I do it for them, if they won't even spend that 5 seconds to say "Thank you" or acknowledge it then that's the last time I'll do it for them. Now to demand what Raise spell to use on them and refusing the one I cast thats far beyond rude.

                  With something like that I'd feel very willing to oblige in helping them, by making a nice little shout stating not to raise <list of names> because you'll just end up their raise whore. That they'll get really nasty with you if you don't give them the raise they want. Then sit back and watch them struggle, maybe whip out a few /point <t> and /laugh.

                  Or get really elaborate if some really great way to really shove it to them just crosses my mind. I never go to far out of my way though to waste energy thinking of one, but many times when people are that terrible it just seems so easy get them and get them really good.


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                  • #10
                    Used to be the 'kind taru' who raises people and found out 7/10 people are actually Jackass. You do 1 thing and you're bounded to them forever to be their raise slave. or they'll request 1 thing after another, dun even bother to thank you after raise, thinking it's our job to do so.

                    Like 1 time someone ask me for port and i say i've got things to do.. this is jeuno, pls go to lower jeuno, there's a lot of people offering their service there. And i got the bark from him like if you're playing a whm, why the fuck do you not want to port! I got 3,000 gils, if that's what u want. I got really PO at this point and simply blist.

                    So now i dun raise anyone other than my friend, LS mates or pty members. If i do it'll be of my own willing to do so, like happen to run past and poor soul look so helpless. Other than that, i'll just ignore any request been sent to me. If i got spam with > 5 request and start getting rude, i'll simply blist. makes life a lot easier.

                    This world is really gettiung more worse and i thought people from my older mmorpg are bad enough.

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                    • #11
                      It's unbelievable when you raise someone and you don't even get so much as a thank you :mad:

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                      • #12
                        Re: Raise machine(rant)

                        Originally posted by locus
                        I have never encountered a situation in which I was partied and a party asked me to travel half the map to raise someone just because they had no white mage in their party and the pt member refused to take raise 1. I've had people ask me when I just happened to be passing by and unpartied and by all means, I oblige freely. But expecting you to be mothering everyone in the entire zone with raise 3?

                        And you wondered what I meant about people expecting you to raise them? :spin:
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                        • #13
                          I'm not even a white mage, but I've seen my brother raise people with his bard (lower level areas) and not get a thank you. Also when on the way to an xp session our WHM raises a dead body in the path. I swear they should have a 30 second cancel function for the raise, but then people would abuse that too much. When I ask people for a favor, I sometimes thank them for their time in just responding even if they decline. It's a shame people aren't raised (no pun intended) better than this even if it is a game.
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                          • #14
                            wow it's idots like that that ruin it for people who would really appreciate a raise from a stranger...

                            Thanks to all you WHM's who go out of your way to raise srangers ^^

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