Galka Whm ?

[Stryyf]

I played DRG to 42 and got sick of Looking for Parties
so I quested a few other jobs and started messing around
Bard was one i liked alot, But the only sub that makes much sence is WHM.
Is it even fezable to play whm as Galka at lvl 8 i think i have like 44 mana points or something. I can buy Juice to help out and Apple pie as well but i know i will be at a huge disadvantage
any advice on getting a Galka Whm to 30 ?
Guess it would help having BLM to 15 or so for the mana point boost but after that what can a Galka DO ?

[Taga]

galka white mage is only viable (in pt) if you can afford astral rings (~150k on Fenrir) which convert 25 hp to mp

[Icemage]

Indeed. Galka WHM are painful - I honestly don't recommend starting as one, as you won't have the resources to buy the items you'll need to play an effective healer (Astral Rings, food, etc.).

For instance, without help from food/equipment, a Galka WHM at level 25 lacks sufficient MP to cast Raise (150). Food for thought.


Icemage

[xarddrax]

Try RDM instead. I played with a Galka RDM that wasnt too bad. Besides that, there really isnt a subjob that best fits BRD. I use a THF for the gil boost and i steal every now and then. Or try a BST for the Charisma bonus stats.
With WHM sub you are only able to cast a few CureIIs brfore you are out of MP anyway. And i dont think parties looking for a BRD are gonna say " Well i would invite you if you had a better subjob, but since you dont...."
Bards arent the most common class in the game, so youll be fine with almost any subjob....just make sure its leveld so you get the stats.

[Miriamel]

Originally posted by Icemage

For instance, without help from food/equipment, a Galka WHM at level 25 lacks sufficient MP to cast Raise (150). Food for thought.


Icemage

Seriously? Ouch...

[Stryyf]

I figured that, i am looking at doing a few more BCNM40 to fund my Astral Ring fund. I figure once i have those I should be a little better.

[kebrok]

I just hit 30 as a galka whm. I was in a hurry to get there (going bard also), so I have been very neglectful with keeping up with my equipment. I used the equipment I bought at level 11 all the way to 30. I used vagabond, which has no +MP, then the low cost MP gear for the rest of the slots.

I had no trouble having enough mp to cast raise, even without pies. I also never had trouble finding groups. Most of my invites came from people I had previously grouped with, though. I would pick the galka last if I were forming a group.

Getting to 30 as a galka may be hard, but it is doable. You have to be very conservative with your mp. I healed mainly by spamming Cure I and using regen. Cure II was used only if Cure could not keep up. Curega was only used with divine seal. I cast Cure III once, just to try it out...

Chaining IT mobs usually requires you to have back up healing. Your low MP will be a restraint on your group otherwise.

I grouped with other whm's some. From what I saw they did not use their mp as efficiently as I did. You will have to play well in order for you race not to be a major hindrance. Make sure to use pies, this is something the other whm I grouped with did not do. I would not level without them.

On the plus side, I only ever died from using benediction. Even with benediction, I was able to survive long enough to get the mob off me in all but a couple cases. I would also tell my group to let the mob hit me a couple times before provoking it off me. Saved a cure or two that way.

Thinking back, it was fun, but I will be happier being a major asset to a group instead of barely being able to manage. I did not like it when my weakness kept the group from being able to handle some mobs.

[Stryyf]

What did you sub ?
I was thinking BLM cause i can use basicly the same gear and just about mele my way to lvl 10 just so i have the bonus MP
but i was thinking summoner as well but i don't have the ruby yet
so may be tough.
as far as Pies and juice go people that don't use them kill me.
I played DRG up to lvl 42 and lvl'd Thief up to 5 for gil finder
I use that to farm gill and keep my foods up
I will probaly go apple pie or roast mushroom, and juices
I am hoping to get a astral ring or 2 if i get lucky

[kebrok]

I subbed red mage. My reasoning is that black mage is just about worthless as a sub to a bard. With red mage I can at least try fast cast out to see if I like it when I hit 30 with bard. If you look around this forum, you will see that red mage is not a bad sub for a white before 50.

I used the same grear for red with the exception of a sword and shield. Galka's make for good soloing to eleven. One group later I was 15 and retired that job

[Pilsbane]

Another thing to consider is the RSE for galka. The RSE seems to try and equal out the stats amongst races. For example, the Galka RSE gives the most MP and the Taru RSE gives the most HP. So if you take the time to get full Galka RSE (+150) and Astral Rings (+50) you can have a respectable MP total by level 33.

Personally, I think switching jobs just to be in "higher demand" is a horrible idea. I was out in the Yhor-jungle of Kahzam yesterday and there were 4 Whitemages lined up looking for a group. And they weren't just looking for a group for 15 minutes, 2 of them were still looking for a group 3 hours later!!! The zone was so short on provokers that I had to sub warrior to my redmage and help with provokes for our group. And as a Galka Whitemage, you'd be the last of those 4 Whitemages to get picked!

[Stryyf]

i am not planing on being a whm for ever as a Galka or am i doing it to be a more desired class, i am lvl'n WHM only as a sub to bard.
as far as those whm sitting for 3 hours looking for a group that is there fault they could have formed a group somewhere else Kazham is not the only place to lvl. I am mostly looking for tips as being a galka whm, there are alot of higher lvl Galka Mages and Bards on Levi server so i know it can be done it is probaly just a challenge.

As for RSE I plan on getting it as i can and using a few peices here and there as Bard, Mostly as whm sub i will divine seal/cureaga after long fights or pass out status cure or something. most bards i have grouped with in the past don't spend much of there time attempting to heal during battle.
and for BCNM events Galka will be a nice choice for bard as they have enough hp to be able to get beat on a little bit where as a lvl 40 Taru bard has like 4 hp or something.

[Grol]

Being my first toon was a Galka WHM that I leveled to 33, I might have some insight for you. The key to being a successful Galka WHM is simply thus, be better than the next guy. You have to master MP management much sooner and under harsher conditions than any other mage/race combination period. You have to focus on +MP items and foods, and learn how to medititate effectively in combat while other WHMs are standing around. It's not easy, but it is very doable, despite what people say. Also, you're huge advantage is of course Hitpoints.

Need to toss out a big heal, or even a Benediction? No sweat. While Tarus die in 2-3 hits from a pissed off IT monster, you can survive a good long while until it gets peeled off. While other mages are screaming for help, I usually thanked the mob because it meant less I had to heal others for since I medititated and regained hp anyway.

There will be times when you envy the other Races MP pools, but trust me there are times they'll be laying face down and the monster dies in 1-2 rounds - meaning you'd live and possibly by living saved the group. It's a different path and has it's advantages, welcome to it

As for getting to 30 and subbing your BRD? I went BRD main with my Galka, and seeing as they don't really "need" mp per se, it worked rather well. Our CHR is low, but then again CHR are very plentiful and very inexpensive. MP pool isn't that big of an issue, because you will only be backup healing nad status curing in some situations, not that often - so you small mana pool isn't that big of a hindrance. Overall, I've seen 70+ Galka WHM and 70+ Galka BRD, so it's feasible, doable, and alot of fun. Also, I never had a problem finding a PT, people scoop up BRDs and they Scoop up WHM. You just have to make that RDM stop meleeing screaming about his uber 5 dmg with his sword and actually backup heal.

[Stryyf]

Sweet thanks alot seems a few people pulled it off and even without the astral rings and whatnot.

[Stryyf]

Well a small update. Made it to lvl 13 last night (got sick of dunes before 14) but Had no problem as a Galka. I dont have my astral rings yet but I am using food (Roasted Mushroom, and Apple Pies)
So far I have been doig decent, think i was 30 mp behind a Taura in my party. he did not use food or have the best gear for his lvl.
Most the responces i get are wow Galka mage? ..... cool your mana not as low as i thought. So if any other Galka mages out there go for it but like it was said before you have to be on the ball, and it realy helps to have a higher lvl job to farm cash for you.

[imac2much]

Well, the thing is you are extremely low level. At low levels, the difference in MP between races is hardly significant, and can easily be made up by food and equipment.

At higher levels, MP differences in races become exponentially greater, whereas the MP bonuses from food and equipment are fixed, resulting in MUCH more noticeable discrepancies.

However, Galka WHM are still doable. I just saw a level 51 Galka WHM/BLM in another party when I was in the West Altepa QSC. He was a JPN player with the following equipment:

Full RSE
Rosewand+1
Faerie Shield
Holy Phial
Redcape+1
2 Astral Rings
2 Morion Earrings
Morion Talthum
Druid's Rope (I think, maybe something else)

Using tons of pies and drinks, he seemed to be faring just fine. Then again, there was a RDM in his PT (with refresh of course)... and curiously enough, was also a Galka

As the bonuses from RSE and other equipment/food get left behind in the dust as the MP discrepancies get larger and larger, I can only see Galka WHMs getting worse and worse at higher levels. Oh well, make sure you level with a BRD and/or RDM and I'm sure you'll be fine. (and be stocked with plenty of pies and drinks!)