Cure burst?

[HexiumVII]

I know that if you combine two black spells, you get a burst, what about white magic? Will you get a bonus if you cure the same guy exactly the same time? I wish the animation for magic burst is better.

[Icemage]

Magic Burst does not occur because of multiple spells cast at the same time. It happens when you cast a spell of the correct element on an enemy immediately after your party completes a Skillchain.

For instance, if one player uses Red Lotus Blade, then the next party member uses Fast Blade to complete the skillchain, you'll get Scission. If a black mage, red mage, or dark knight then casts Stone immediately following the Scission, they will get extra damage - a Magic Burst.

You can Magic Burst with Cure spells on undead only, and only with certain VERY rare (and mostly very high level) skillchains.


Icemage

[kirbys_dead]

I wouldnt think that a Magic chain would happen from using cure magic, because there arnt that many people that will heal at the same time, where as black magic is used more offten on a single monster (ei-2blm and a rdm casting magic on a target had only one target to use magic on, where as a whm has the whole party to worry about when healing) so technicaly you really cant use spell chains for healing.

[Icemage]

I wonder why I bother posting sometimes, as it is obvious some people don't bother reading the post above before they make speculations.

I'll repeat it again: Casting more than one spell at the same time has *nothing* to do with Magic Bursts. Magic Bursts only happen when a spellcaster casts an offensive spell at an enemy who has just been hit with a skillchain effect(Fusion, Detonation, Induration, Scission, Gravitation, Reverberation, Liquefication, etc. etc.), and only if the spell that is used matches the element of the skillchain.

In my above example, the skillchain Scission is an Earth element effect, so you could cast any of the follow spells to Magic Burst with it:

Stone
Stone II
Stonega
Stonega II
Quake

If you successfully cast one of these spells quickly after your party has performed Scission, you will get a Magic Burst, and get bonus damage for your spell.


Icemage

[kumaeru]

Rofl icemage...


People.. you can only Burst at a specific time when Renkei's are done.. Renkei btw is a weapon skill chain.


when a succesful renkei is done, the right spell must go off to gain the effect "Magic Burst".


Off the top of my head, Fast Blade -> Burning Blade produces the Renkei effect Liquifaction.

Liquifaction to magic burst with liquifaction the magic user will need to cast any lvl of Fire at the right time to Burst.

Only 2 Renkeis use Light magic attacks (Banish, Holy, Cure only with undead) these are:

Transfixion
and the lvl 2 Renkei Fusion.

All lvl2 Renkei' have 2 set elements that can be Magic Bursted with.

Magic Burst Elements with lvl 1 Renkei's
Liquefaction = Fire
Reverberation = Water
Transfixion = Light
Scission = Earth
Impaction = Thunder
Induration = Ice
Shrinkage = Dark
Detenation = Wind

[HexiumVII]

Me and my friend cast two spells at the same time, it says Magic Burst and gives us extra damage. We are not attacking and there is no one else in our party. I like to call it a Twin Burst.

[jasmill]

no you don't

[John Doe III]

Originally posted by Icemage
Skillchain

Renkei you dork. First word to come into play when the game came out, JP players didn't use skillchain.

[kumaeru]

Originally posted by John Doe III



Renkei you dork. First word to come into play when the game came out, JP players didn't use skillchain.

Guess what.. NA release came out. It helps when teaching people about Renkei by calling them Skillchains cause well.. they are.


btw you cant "burst" with 2 spells together at the right time, I dont know where you are getting the idea that it does, it doesnt work.

[Icemage]

Just for clarification, Japanese players will call weapon skill combinations Renkei, while North American players will probably call them Skillchains.

When I look at my screen and I read my combat log, I see Skillchain - and so will any NA players reading this thread. If you want to blame someone for the confusion in terms, maybe you should talk to Square-Enix and ask them why they wanted to use a more English-sounding name for the effect.


P.S. Leave off the name-calling, ok J.D. III? I respect your opinion, but I don't think what I posted merited a personal attack. I don't have any gripes with you, but if you want to make it personal, take it to private messages.

[Macht]

Just to make it clear on the Renkei/Skillchains and Magic Bursts generated from properly timed magic matching the Renkei/Skillchain element.

Ok, Magic Bursts ONLY occur when you cast the right element spell matching the Renkei/Skillchain. Timing for each spell of when you start the cast varies. End result is you have about 5 seconds after the skillchain's attack to have your spell strike the enemy.

There is an actual timer that indicates when you went past the lotted time to do this (If you're wondering what it is, there is this Kanji symbol that pop's up from the monster when the time has passed. The symbol is sometimes not very noticable so you can easily overlook it if you arn't paying attention.)

Now spells like Stone, Water, Aero, and Fire all cast within 5 seconds, so they should be easy to magic burst with because the spell can be cast and finished under the 5 seconds.

Magic Burst do not have to be at the absolute end of a skillchain. So if the party is doing something like Raging Axe>Red Lotus>Shield Bash, then the magic burst you can do to the skill chain resulted from the Raging Axe>Red Lotus or from the skillchain coming from the Red Lotus>Shield Bash. End Result the attack sequence can look like this:

Raging Axe attacks
Red Lotus attacks
Skillchain: Scission
Earth spell attacks (Magic Burst)
Shield Bash attacks
Skillchain: Fusion
Fire/Light spell attacks (Magic Burst)

Each spot were a Magic Burst happens doesn't mean that only one mage can get it. So in the previous example you can 2 or 3 mages cast an Earth Spell and the 2 or 3 mages that get the spell of in the lotted time each gets a Magic Burst from it. All the Renkei's/Skillchains can be used effectively just have to pay attention to the situation and what would get you the most damage for that situation.

At around lv. 14 the skillchain I see being quite usefull for doing brutal damage is this:

(THF 1H Sword) Fast Blade w/ Sneak Attack
(1H Sword) Burning Blade
Skillchain: Liquifaction
(BLM)Fire spell attack (Magic Burst)
(forgot weapon for this one) Shield Bash or Combo
Skillchain: Fusion
(WHM)Cure/Dia/Banish spell attack (Magic Burst)
(BLM)Fire spell attack (Magic Burst, for any that didn't cast fire on the first skillchain)

This seems like one of the best setups you can do to try and cause serious damage to an increadibly tough undead monster when the party is around lower levels and have a chance of maybe defeating the Undead.

[Seregil]

If I was to magic burst as a whm, I'd probably get more of a kick by bursting with Holy. >

[Lyonesse]

Multiple Magic Bursts are possible in a combo. We were doing 3-4 magic bursts per enemy last night. Fire/Light are interchangable with magic bursts since we did burning Blade -> Combo for Fusion then Magic BUrsted Cure II and Fire on Wights last night in Qufim. MB Cure IIs can do really nice damage, got 80 damage off it.

[Macht]

Yeah magic burst with Holy would be nice but I didn't think a lv. 14 WHM had holy yet?

[Seregil]

No.. they don't give it out to low level mages.. probably afraid they will run around and start castingHOly on random NPCs! >