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  • jobtrait fencer and 2h

    atm i use a martial buhj for steelcyclone.

    could it be that fencer also works for 2h weapons and not just wielding a single 1h weapon?
    i wsed with 200% tp and 160%(+40% from fencer) and the damage outcome is almost the same.
    War 70, Mnk 30, Drk 75, Thf 37, Bst 8, Nin 37, Blm 37, Dnc 37, Rdm 75

    http://www.ffxiah.com/player.php?id=288293

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    Re: jobtrait fencer and 2h

    Try with a magic WS like Frostbite or Raiden Thrust against Level 0 mobs. That'll give consistent results. Report the damage from doing the WS at 275 and 300 TP. For the sake of completeness, test with and without a strap.
    Last edited by Armando; 06-28-2010, 12:26 AM.

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    • #3
      Re: jobtrait fencer and 2h

      Lmnop tested for me. Didn't get any TP bonus on Raiden Thrust, and that was without a strap.

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      • #4
        Re: jobtrait fencer and 2h

        By my understanding Fencer only affected single-handed weapons.

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        • #5
          Re: jobtrait fencer and 2h

          Yes, but a few people were going by placebo effects and the rationale that two-handed weapons only take up the main slot (the description reads main hand only as opposed to one hand only.) It's a pretty straightforward test so might as well put the rumors to rest.

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          • #6
            Re: jobtrait fencer and 2h

            Originally posted by Armando View Post
            Yes, but a few people were going by placebo effects and the rationale that two-handed weapons only take up the main slot (the description reads main hand only as opposed to one hand only.) It's a pretty straightforward test so might as well put the rumors to rest.
            Ah, I see, so MNKs are starting to take up other jobs.

            Scary. Seems the definition of a "two-handed weapon" can be bent any way they want.

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            • #7
              Re: jobtrait fencer and 2h

              after further testing i can say that it doesnt work for 2h. i just wanted to know if someone else felt the same or if i was wrong.
              War 70, Mnk 30, Drk 75, Thf 37, Bst 8, Nin 37, Blm 37, Dnc 37, Rdm 75

              http://www.ffxiah.com/player.php?id=288293

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              • #8
                Re: jobtrait fencer and 2h

                Just in case any of you are curious, BG has a thread detailing all the old job traits that have been updated as well as new ones that were ninja edited in. WAR for example gets shield mastery at 80 now.
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                • #9
                  Re: jobtrait fencer and 2h

                  Have they done any testing with the Main Hand Crit trait (Fencer) and Duel Wield? I are very curious about this.
                  Last edited by Solymir; 06-29-2010, 12:11 PM.
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                  • #10
                    Re: jobtrait fencer and 2h

                    I tested that yesterday as well. See my info (Rep-o) on the discussion page of wiki.

                    Talk:Fencer - FFXIclopedia, the Final Fantasy XI wiki - Characters, items, jobs, and more

                    EDIT: to clarify, I didn't test crit rate, but I did test dual wield. I was considering that both, TP bonus weapons (Martial anelace) and crit bonus weapons only apply to the weapon where the bonus is found. i.e. a sword with +6% crit rate can be dual wielded, but only that weapon will get the crit rate -- the offhand will have normal crit rate unless it has its own bonus. So it seemed rational that maybe Fencer would affect the main hand (the WS hand) and not the offhand. But disproving the TP bonus pretty much disproves the crit rate bonus as well by virtue of it being one trait.
                    Last edited by Lmnop; 06-29-2010, 05:18 PM.
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