Juggernaut or Woodvilles?

[Russta]

I've saved up a lot of money recently and am in the position to comfortably afford Woodvilles Axe (1.3mil) or save a few extra hundred thousand gil and buy a Juggernaut (2.5-2.8mil). I know on paper that people would automatically say go for the Juggernaut because of the attack+30 but I like to try and take everything into consideration. Can anybody that has experience using both tell me just how much better one is over the other and if that difference is worth over a million gil extra. Thanks.

[l)@RK-l)EVIL]

I believe Woodvilles Axe better
Cuz as a drk i always prefer weapon DMG over attack
Juggernaut axe is good if you wanna sub ninja and use it with woodvilles

there is 4 DMG deff only but thats too much believe me :sweat:
you will notice how 4DMG effect your damage when you use strong ws like spinning slash

with mithral heart DMG80 i do +1000 spinning slash alot
but with Zweihander DMG76 its (rare) to do +1000

even though i was fighting same mob

[ruff0123]

The Woodvilles was alter a couple of patches ago.

"Damage calculation of the following weapons has been adjusted. Damage will now be more directly related to the attacker's STR and the defender's VIT."

Whatever that means that means you should consider before buying.

[Beener]

the high warrior in my LS says woodville is better

i'll test when i get to them thar levelz.

[2.0]

Buy the woodville's and camp the juggernaut. Problem solved. If you're in a good linkshell there's no reason why you should have to pay for those kinds of equipment (juggernaut,balmung,those kinds of things.)

[bleegh]

You make it sound like a "good" ls will cater to your every need

[kuu]

It depends what you use it for.

WS like rampage rely on crits which is benifited from +attack items.

Of course most wars tend to forget rampage in xp pts, by then... well sometimes.

[2.0]

Originally posted by bleegh
You make it sound like a "good" ls will cater to your every need

Its all about give and take bro. One for all. All for one. You should know this.

[Uroboros]

Little late to comment on this thread fo Russta, but for others my thoughts.

Used Woodsville from 72 (or whenever you can equip it) to 75, and just got my Juggernaut from camping Overlord a couple days ago (squeal). I think Juggernaut is better. Woodsville spell interrupt down seems based on ninjitsu/casting stats, as for me it went off -twice ever- and only on easy/too weak mobs. Woodsville has higher D for WS and 1 more STR, but whatever, Jugg has the 30 attack and the +18 HP. In the end neither the strength or attack differences are hugely noticeable but the HP on the Juggernaut is, I almost feel it's worth it just for that. Adding it on top of other stuff like RSE belts, Behemoth Mantle, Bomb Queen Ring, Fighter's Lorica, Genbu's Kabuto, etc. for HP adds up.

However, kind of something alluded to before my post, would I have bought it off of AH for 3.5 million or whatever (server dependent)? No, that's obviously why I had Woodsville's before 75, and not Jugg. ^^

And it's worth noting if you can't afford 1~1.5 mil for Woods (or Scarlet King it), or 2.5~4 mil for Jugg (or camp it), Tabarzin is still a good axe (and the prettiest!).

[nirro]

toss up

I think both are damn good axe's

I would prolly go with Woodville's in main hand and try and camp Joyeuse or Juggernaut for offhand

[Apple Pie]

The Woodvilles was alter a couple of patches ago.

"Damage calculation of the following weapons has been adjusted. Damage will now be more directly related to the attacker's STR and the defender's VIT."

It was actually "fixed" to normal after the update. No need to worry about this.

[Funguwari]

Be uber 1337 and use Woodville's in your main and Juggernaunt in your sub! XD Insane DMG!