war/nin 74 + one of the best jobs..

[AtraposBLM]

you'd need an awful lot of summoners to keep blink up, first of all, and second of all, the Spell blink is NOWHERE near as powerful as the ninjitsu. Unlike Utsusemi, Blink does not block the next 2 hits 100% - most times its more like:
Hit
blink
Hit
Hit
Hit
blink

Against anything particularly difficult. Against HNM's that have annoying AOE...good luck trying to keep it up.

[ZQM]

Originally posted by AtraposBLM
you'd need an awful lot of summoners to keep blink up, first of all, and second of all, the Spell blink is NOWHERE near as powerful as the ninjitsu. Unlike Utsusemi, Blink does not block the next 2 hits 100% - most times its more like:
Hit
blink
Hit
Hit
Hit
blink

Against anything particularly difficult. Against HNM's that have annoying AOE...good luck trying to keep it up.

3 SMN or /SMN is enough to keep it up.

A PLD won't get hit for that much less then an equally equipped WAR.

And, when it comes to Gods, the only AOEs they have are spells.

EDIT: Maybe you didn't understand and I should clarify. Instead of going WAR/NIN and tanking them like a NIN does, it might be possible to go WAR/MNK and tank it like a PLD does.

EDIT#2: Something brought up by a LS member of mine is hate. I wouldn't be able to dual-tank with a PLD because they would get a lot more hate then me, so if it was to be done it'd have to be with 2 WAR/MNKs.

[Kibagami]

Do it ZQM and tell us how it goes.

[ZQM]

At the current time, I'm not to worried about getting Koeing. Need to focus on more important equipment.

Well, I could do it in God gear. I don't have full set yet, but I should soon except for Osode (can just borrow that from another member). I doubt God gear would be enough though...every point of DEF and VIT counts on Gods, and there's a lot of difference between the two. God gear would be a lot better suited for a WAR/NIN tank. Also, no other WAR in my LS seems to be interested in tanking, so nobody to dual-tank with.

The worst part about WAR tanking endgame is that it can't be the same as EXP on the mobs that matter. You can't be a full offensive blink tank, you need to be deffensive. WAR/NIN is a gimped NIN, WAR/MNK is a gimped PLD. Yes, they CAN work, but a NIN and PLD can do the job better. I'm really sadden by this because I felt so overpowered in EXP, but now I'm just a gimp of another job.

Not to say endgame tanking for WAR sucks though. You can still tank the minor HNM like serket, and I still feel they are the best kiters. And there will still be a chance to tank the tougher ones when there is no PLD or NIN on. And then ofcoarse always the offensive WAR endgame.

[Kibagami]

Well i'm not sure you really need another WAR to dual tank it. It could be with another PLD as long as the paladin understands he has to tone down a little his hate tools. About the gear you need. Maybe with Kirin's Osode and the helment (can't remember the name atm, the one with +15 VIT) and the rest with Koenig. Defending ring would be really good too (-10% damage taken). Um, well i don't really know to what gear you have acces to so i guess i'll stop guessing for now.
If you do try it i would like to know how it goes...maybe a vid for the video vault ^^.

[bladecloud]

It's not very hard with triple haste (rdm/whm haste+double march song) to tank guards. Seiryu always give me a problem though :| Fang Rush = 3 hits and dispelling wing = removes uts alot.


Can't remember off the top of my head but I think triple haste brings Uts: Ichi down to 15-20 sec and Ni to 28-32. Of course every war should seek out dusk hands and feet ASAP and save up for that speed belt if you're beyond rich ^^ These items will save your life ALOT. Whenever I die it usually means I only had 2-5 sec rescast on Ichi or Ni and was unable to bring blink back up in time, Every second counts.

You don't need bar-song as long as your blms stun the Ga's.

Plus having a 2nd tank to save your ass doesn't hurt.. and it's quite common to have another war/pld/nin in the alliance, it's just not required.


The only thing ninjas have that I wish I had.. is speed boots.
I'm hoping they add some +12%speed armor war can use in the new sky, coming next patch.


I've never seen/had a SMN play blink crutch.. but it's an interesting idea.

/em ponders about 2-3 blink tanks for Fafnir :D

[bolaber]

i'm a near lvl 70 pld.. with war and nin around the early 40's.

after talking with taimoor...i realized something... that was blaringly obvious..

war's can wear koenig too!

well what does that mean?

war/nin = def of a paladin and blinkage of a nin

(this is what i a call a chunk of rock)

since no LS will let a war lot on the martial abjurations for warriors. I still plan on getting my pld to lvl 75. But once my pld is 75, i'm goign to bring my war to 75 as well to test out this .. ultimate "chunk of rock"

[Kibagami]

Yeah but what ZQM and I wanna know is how it goes with a WAR/MNK and 3 SMN using aerial armor by turns.

[Mephisto]

Originally posted by bolaber
i'm a near lvl 70 pld.. with war and nin around the early 40's.

after talking with taimoor...i realized something... that was blaringly obvious..

war's can wear koenig too!

well what does that mean?

war/nin = def of a paladin and blinkage of a nin

(this is what i a call a chunk of rock)

since no LS will let a war lot on the martial abjurations for warriors. I still plan on getting my pld to lvl 75. But once my pld is 75, i'm goign to bring my war to 75 as well to test out this .. ultimate "chunk of rock"

you'll do next do no damage though. Koenig gives MASSIVE str and dex -

[Uroboros]

Originally posted by Mephisto
you'll do next do no damage though. Koenig gives MASSIVE str and dex -

You're not going to do damage tanking anyway. One handed weapons and/or Earth Staff hit for single digit damage on gods for the most part, max is about 30. This is with full attacker gear. With full def, vit, -dmg gear, you won't do damage regardless.

Also, about LS's not letting WARs lot Koenig...not many LS have more than 2~3 PLDs, and once they have Koenig it's just going to rot if a WAR doesn't pick it up. =] Kabuto is better than Koenig Helm but Gloves are worth picking up. Chest/Legs/Feet WAR has better stuff to wear though.

[Russta]

Originally posted by bolaber
i'm a near lvl 70 pld.. with war and nin around the early 40's.

after talking with taimoor...i realized something... that was blaringly obvious..

war's can wear koenig too!

well what does that mean?

war/nin = def of a paladin and blinkage of a nin

(this is what i a call a chunk of rock)

since no LS will let a war lot on the martial abjurations for warriors. I still plan on getting my pld to lvl 75. But once my pld is 75, i'm goign to bring my war to 75 as well to test out this .. ultimate "chunk of rock"

The theory is there but go watch someone try the practice. Warriors rely on their damage to keep hate because Provoke isn't enough and Warcry has a five minute cool down. Paladins keep it by curing themselves and having a shit load of abilities to pace out throughout the battle. The only "counter arguments" to this won't apply because they would be inefficient for a HNM LS to do consistently.

[Thegod]

saw a nin with scorpian harness+1, peacock charm, and all the goodies, IMO he was the best tank i have ever seen.