lv60+ Attack Armor

[imstimpy]

It seems to me that there is an obvious choice as to which armor should be purchased. The problem with that is I am having a bad time getting the last 1 mil I need for a Haubergeon. My acquisation of my initial 1 mil has come over the course of my entire play career, building up in very small increments. This is my first MMORPG and perhaps that is why I have such difficulty acquiring this money.

Haubergeon is the true choice until lv69. In my SP, I am currently using RK Chainmail instead of my Fighter's Lorica since I cannot afford Haubergeon. We have been leveling often enough that my farming time is restricted to just a few hours each week. I guess this really isn't a question of which is better, Haubergeon or Byrnie, but whether Byrnie is a better alternative to the RK Chainmail when funds are limited. The cost difference between Byrnie and Haubergeon is approximately 700k. While many scoff at that, I consider 700k to be pretty significant when there are Sniper's Rings to buy, Sarashi to play with, consumables to use, weapon upgrades and alternatives, and new armor pieces coming up as I level.

There is a -5 DEX difference between the RK Chainmail and the Byrnie as well as a huge +17 ATK difference (other less relevant stats are ignored). I'm Mithran so DEX isn't much of an issue. As long as I have the STR to back it up, boosting ATK should be very beneficial. Is there really any reason NOT to go with the Byrnie, then?

It isn't a matter of pride in my character preventing me from going with the best equipment possible, but it simply is outside of my reach. The frustration in saving that kind of gil has really got to me and has left me with the mentality to just get by for now. Trying for Haubergeon has removed some of the joy I've had in this game and I don't like the feeling. I've always tried to have "uber" equipment as my first job, but this 2.2 mil piece of equipment (when compared to my next most expensive 225k piece of equipment) is just too much.

[GSDragoon]

We have been leveling often enough that my farming time is restricted to just a few hours each week.

There's your problem...

[Rodin]

Here's a tip, get your set party to farm with you. Go to Beadeaux and fight quadavs that drop quadav helmets, have at least one person sub THF, or have a THF. You will go through quadavs with absolutely no downtime and if you do that for a few hours you'll notice that you're getting money pretty fast including what you make from the quadav helm quest. It won't be as quick as hunting an NM, but you're guaranteed money instead of waiting five hours to find that another HNM linkshell has taken the NM.

[tomiko]

/comfort

I've simply given up on getting the haub.
Not having the extra +10 acc won't hurt the Warrior much.
Aggressor and extra double attacks puts us in the lead of TP gain when compared with most other melee, at least with dual axe /nin.
As DD I've gotten by with RK mail, viking axe, str rings, thick gloves and celeta... and I still am usually the 1st one ready to start SC, even with mnk/thf on bones. Drk need the equip badly tho... with Aggressor, sometimes I solo Rampage and catch up to the Drk again for SC ._.

If you can afford the Byrnie go for it... or you can keep saving for a hauberk... But make sure you can afford some new axes as you lvl. I'm using a Tabarzin and my very trusty Viking Axe lol.

I preferred tanking with a brd during the 60's, however

[ZQM]

Don't forget (free) Assault Jerkin. My static took him down easily at 61-62.

[Synbios]

I borrowed 600k from my static members to buy Haubergeon, try the same?

[Xien]

My suggestion is to sell one or two of your sniper rings and buy the Haubergeon. Swap out the snipers with a pair of Str+3 rings and you're better off BOTH +atk and +str wise.

Farming for 350k at a time is much easier than 700k

Xien

[Bigokk McGock]

^^Except that they're 500k on our server Xien :p

I was about to sell all my stuff and buy Kracken Club until I found out she wants 15million for it. That to me is out of reach.

I owe it all to Mr. Stroper Chimes.

I stopped leveling completely for 2-3 months to farm for Haubergeon. I even went to the extent of leveling a THF to 45 for TH2 on a second account and farmed Archer's Rings. I afforded my Sniper's that way too.

With TH2, you'll get about 2-3 in 6 hours straight of camping them.

Look me up, I'll use my THF we can split the cash. If we get 3 that's 1.2 mil, half is 600k...but I'd take 500k so you could have your 700k.

[imstimpy]

I don't have Sniper's Rings nor have I felt I've needed them yet. I play with +STR rings. Selling all my good gear to run ok gear and one great piece isn't what I'm shooting for.

My THF buddy had 3 Archer's land in one night. The next two times we were there we spent 6 hours with no drop (fighting for spawns) and 4 hours with one drop (near non-stop with us claiming it). Rather sporradic and if others are camping (they usually are) we may only fight a couple Chymes per hour. Frustrating way to make gil, but when it pays out it really pays out.

Sounds to me like most people aren't much of a fan of the Byrnie (as exhibited by all the posts on farming etc) nor are they a fan of playing with ok equipment instead of the best equipment. My solution may just be to split from the SP and spend some time getting all caught up.

[Xien]

I guess it depends if you have a bard or not, and if you're using GAX. I noticed that my GAX accuracy fell a shitload when I swapped out the Sniper's with my Str rings. Raging rush was constantly doing 1-2 hits only. I guess against really high evasion stuff like Toramas, that's where the bling2 kicks in.

If you have a bard though, screw it. I took off my sniper rings and haubergeon and the thing still conned low Evasion with B.madrigal.

Sometimes, one really must use GAX to get a feel on how your accuracy is doing. Sometimes swinging two axes and hitting double atks often gives the illusion of having a great hitrate.

I'm actually a huge fan of Brynie since I love the way it looks
But stats wise Haubergeon has +2 str, +5 dex, -10 atk, +10 accuracy over Brynie. I guess it all boils down to: would you trade your life belt with a swordbelt?

Xien

[Bigokk McGock]

Liim, there's secrets to camping Stroper Chimes ><; (Taught to me by the great Sheeba)

Or maybe just superstitions...but it's worked for me so far.

[lun4tic]

Share them? O_o

I know some linkshells keep them both popping at the same time, and others get one to pop, then run over to the other before it pops.

[imstimpy]

I log my fights so I can see how my ACC is doing. Switching to GAXE, though, I lose +10ACC and I bet that will really hurt. In that situation, yes, I would use Sniper's. We fought VT Orcs last night in Monastic Cavern and, even with +31 ACC, my hit rate was horrible (everybody's was). It was fun playing with a rank 10 SAM with 4mil in equipment.

lun4tic, it sounds like you haven't yet camped Chymes. On our server they are not constantly camped by a linkshell like some HNM. Usually there are only two people, at most, in the same linkshell camping. The total number of people camping ranges from zero to eight on one spawn. The pain with camping them comes from one spawn sharing a room with elementals and napalms (same spawn rate) and the other spawn spans across a long hallway where it becomes a luck of the spawn location. The secret? Fight them when nobody else is lol.

[lun4tic]

I've tried fighting them, but it was after that buggy patch that caused monsters to spawn claimed. The timing was screwed so that when I provoked it I couldn't it, but the second person who provoked it got it. I was always the first to provoke, and it was pissing me off royally. He would run straight across the room to grab it and there was nothing I could do.

And on Seraph there's always a linkshell there camping it. It isn't always the same linkshel, but there's always one there.

[dworkin]

hey liim. dont worry about trying to get 1 mil in a few days otherwise it sucks. an you find out farming is boring, an will get you frustrated. instead aim for a goal an split the times.

at first my goal was 100k a day farming, when i split it up to 50k an outting a day. i was actually coming back with more then i thaught, an when it came down to it. those times it be an extra 50k.


so dont worry about having ubber gear. i mean haubergeon will last til 69. so you do have a long time to farm for them... an with me being stuck in scotland it should be easier for you. lol but if i get back an your still short we will farm for your huabergeon...