Weapon Choice(messege to new players)

[Synbios]

Originally posted by Blackwar
i heard a rumor that picks are worse than axes (even though both of them are axes, i know). Is this true?

Picks have longer delay and usually adds little damage that the +1 version of axe would have, and most of the time you get to use axe before pick. Most obvious comparison would be Darksteel Axe +1 vs Darksteel Pick.

[Synbios]

Originally posted by bside
back when lvl 50 was the cap (in other words in the very first stage of ffxi), WAR had B rating in H2H. (no + nor - because there wasn't any distinction of that at that time.) but s-e lowered it down to D, and i don't think they'll get it back up, unfortunately, simply because it got lowered once.

one of the underlying reasons for the nerf was that /THF was too strong back then. SA was 100% hit on ALL of the multi-hitting WS' hits, and critical on all hits also. not to mention DEX bonus was added even to /THF's SA. SA+Raging Fists combo was too strong, that other melees were almost useless. SC was always Raging Fists->RLB->Raging Fists, no matter what u were fighting. thus, WAR/THF and MNK/THF were the 2 most wanted jobs. (THF/MNK was also strong, but due to the fact that THF can only use Raging Fists at 50, which was the cap lvl back then, and also that there was no TA yet, WAR and MNK were more favored.)

Meh, now they fixed the SA and RF issue they should consider raising WAR's H2H back to a decent grade. >.> It kinda sucks that we aren't able to get quest WS for Asuran. D; (My real motive) I don't care about the Katanas and the 2 ranged. If they were to allow pumping of Merit points into weapon skills, no doubt where mine will all go to.. >.>

[Nameless]

Originally posted by Bigokk McGock
I would like to add my experience using a Sword in my off-hand.

I use Bloodsword in my off-hand and have used it ever since 55 when it became available and I can't remember ever seeing it miss (other than when mobs use high evasion boosts and I miss with both Axe and Sword attacks). It's not that I have never missed, but I very rarely ever miss with Sword.

You may not believe this, but it's true.

If some one could explain this I would be greatful.

I was looking at swords in the AH from the range of 40-60 and I noticed this one. It has higher attack than Darksteel Axe+1 and +4 to str and dex right? Lower delay also I believe? Anyway, it looked really good, and made me consider leveling my sword (which is at level 100). Also it had hp drain. Too bad it's 400k :/

edit - the point I was trying to make with this is that there is a weapon that is better than an axe at that level, making a need to level said weapon.

[Silverback]

So if by me using a sword and shield,could that be the reason why pt's are hard to get? I mean are they looking for the war/mnk with axes then? I have been having a hard time getting into pt"s and was wondering if this is the reason why?

Thanks for any reply


Silverback

[Circlezero]

Ok you guys are speakin in a totally different language than most new players. Believe it or not, people want to play this game to have fun. Not everyone wants to play so their character is super l337d00dm4n. And I use a shield for extra defense, since Im tanking. Is that a bad idea or what, you guys make it sound like it is.

[imac2much]

If you want to play and just have fun, why are you even caring what we say? Just have fun and play your own way

This is not meant to be a flame. I'm just saying, when most people come to these forums asking for information/advice, it's because they want to play to the best of their abilities.

If you don't want to because it's too much trouble (I can understand that), then just disregard this. But don't expect everyone to think the same as you. Have fun with the game!

[gleneasy]

haaha

so y did u post

[ddg]

Because sitting in Jeuno for 4 hours without a single invite isn't fun at all.

Sure, screw around in the beginning, but they'll remember your name and you'll have a bad reputation. Last time I checked people joined EXP parties to get EXP, not fuck around and kill the EXP.

If you're crappy in any way, they'll remember. They wont invite you next time. You have to tough it out until level 40, when it really gets fun.

[Darkedge]

Recently in a CN party a Warrior came into the party and said they could use like 4 different weapons, anyway as soon as she said Great Axe (auto translator, couldnt speak any english) half the party immediately said [Great Axe], and they weren't idiots of course.

Another thing, /nin Axe+Axe doesn't have as many stat bonuses as some Axe+Sword duos, but I've had Wars asked not to use 2 axes because of hate they pulled, lol.

Anyway invites can get killed if you have a bad reputation, but if no one knows you better than the other War whos seeking, you'll most likely get picked if youre using an axe.

[Denser]

Darkedge your sig owns

[Ungerpurr]

Regarding swords at the 30s and nin sub...

I'd much rather have a warrior/nin dualwielding centurion's swords (and the +1/+2 version at 34) than axes in that level range. They have a total of +6 accuracy +8 attack between them, which is pretty damn good, for that level range. Granted, Fast Blade isn't as good as Raging Axe damage-wise, but Red Lotus Blade is infinitely more useful than Gale Axe and Avalanche Axe combined. Smash Axe and Flat Blade are essentially the same weaponskill.

So, if you have a higher accuracy rating, and a higher attack rating, and at least equal, if not better WS with swords (at that particular level), why not use swords?

[ZQM]

Because Axes have a larger DMG. 7 DMG will be a LOT more then 2 acc and 5 ATK you gain from swords.

Also, if the WAR is damage dealing, he should be using a Great Axe. If the WAR is tanking and using Ninja as a subjob, he most likely isn't in the skillchain and therfore will be using Raging Axe, the strongest 1h weaponskill at that level. If he IS in the skillchain, the only reason he would need to use sword is for RLB.

[Ungerpurr]

Well, I guess I wouldn't know too much about war/nin tanking, to be honest...I used war/mnk, fish food, and defender to tank. At level 36, I had 268 defense, which I felt was pretty good - and very rarely lost aggro.

I guess /nin can't use defender, since they don't have boost, so that makes sense they'd want to go with axes for raging axe....with defender on, I'm used to seeing my raging axe do about 10-20 damage, so it doesn't really make a difference anyway. Does /nin also use meat kabobs? If so...I'm guessing I just don't see the appeal of a /nin tank at that level range, seems like you'd just get the shit beat out of you for no real reason, and spend a lot more money than a war/mnk does.

[ZQM]

Originally posted by Ungerpurr
Well, I guess I wouldn't know too much about war/nin tanking, to be honest...I used war/mnk, fish food, and defender to tank. At level 36, I had 268 defense, which I felt was pretty good - and very rarely lost aggro.

I guess /nin can't use defender, since they don't have boost, so that makes sense they'd want to go with axes for raging axe....with defender on, I'm used to seeing my raging axe do about 10-20 damage, so it doesn't really make a difference anyway. Does /nin also use meat kabobs? If so...I'm guessing I just don't see the appeal of a /nin tank at that level range, seems like you'd just get the shit beat out of you for no real reason, and spend a lot more money than a war/mnk does.

which tells you why there are no WAR/NINs at that level.

[Frumply]

With G.Axe being this effective it really makes you wonder why in the hell most DRKs, JP or NA, do not have G.Axe skilled up, or don't have it ready for use. I think there was just once that a DRK volunteered to use G.Axe in a pt that I can remember, other times they were using swords or scythes that, pre-60's, don't have all that much to offer.