Weapon Choice(messege to new players)

[[SD]DarkDragon]

I'm getting sick and tired of seeing warriors using anything other than an axe or a great axe. I don't care if your becoming a DRK/DRG/PLD/Whatever after you reach wherever your going. If you are going to play warrior, play it right with the weapon they are best at. There is a reason why everyone says use an axe or a great axe as a warrior, you have the highest skillcap with it! Even higher than polearm/scythe/sword/dagger/h2h(although useful at times(damn skeletons), you're not a MNK). Level the weapon you want to use for your advanced job when you play that job, it's not hard to cap out any weapon if you take the time to fight in battles(and yes, I urge mages to melee in battles also, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out if you need to stay back or stop meleeing at times).

And to those WAR/WHM, WAR/RDM, or WAR/BLM(never seen one, but have tried it out, the only usefulness to this job/subjob combo is for the DRK quest(stone/slash for quick kills)) out there, if I needed help doing my job healing/nuking, I'd get an oppropriate job to make up for it.

[Drynavere]

There is a reason why everyone says use an axe or a great axe as a warrior, you have the highest skillcap with it!

I do see your point here, at level 50+ the skill caps start to make a real difference on your accuracy, HOWEVER, before level 30, as your example if you are leveling to get an advanced job, the skills that you have are only like 5-10 apart, which is almost nothing at such a low level.

I do agree that warriors should be using axes, or have some damn good equip if they are using a sword or something, but there is no need to be so perfect pre-30, because it doesn't make all that much difference then.

[ZQM]

Originally posted by Drynavere
I do see your point here, at level 50+ the skill caps start to make a real difference on your accuracy, HOWEVER, before level 30, as your example if you are leveling to get an advanced job, the skills that you have are only like 5-10 apart, which is almost nothing at such a low level.

:confused:

There are NO +acc equipment that WAR can wear until 30. Having 5-10 more accuracy means A LOT more at lower levels.

Not to mention Weapon Skills. Like I said, there are NO +acc equipment until 30, so Shield Break is a gift from God. And Raging Axe is a very powerful two hitter, expecially considering it's a one handed weapon.

[Uroboros]

Neckchopper at lv20 has +5 ACC. Which only makes g.axe even better than it already is early on. I see no reason to use anything but g.axe for at least the first 50 levels. Being able to close renkeis for 400-600 damage before skillchain effect at level 30 is not very easy to ignore (THF sub as DD). It's also hard to ignore countering with g.axe (MNK sub as tank).

[Xien]

Though I've used GAX through my first 30 lvls, I really don't notice that much of a difference accuracy wise between weapons. 5-10 isn't accurate either. The difference between an A rank or a B rank weapon at 30 is 4 (93 to 89). Sometimes having a weapon that can start Distortion really helps as you'll be fighting quite a few mobs that are weak to it.

That being said, the only weapon that should be lvled other than axe or gax is Great Sword or Scythe for the warriors who aspire to become Drks. Most other melee have only one weapon they are proficient in. Dragoons use spear until forever, SAMS Gkt, Nin Katana/Sword, Mnk h2h, Drk Scythe, PLD sword. Even then, switch out to axe/gax when your weapon is capped.

As said though, Shield Break is godly

Xien

[RedWing19]

Really, I don't care if the War uses and axe, great sword, or Scythe, just as long as they don't use Sword and Shield. The only reason i say this is because War's will have provoke and boost if they sub mnk to help hold hate. Everything else depends on how hard they hit the mob. A sword and a shield will hit a IT mob maybe for a couple of points of dmg, while a bigger weapon like g-axe or g-sword will hit for a more dmg and help bring hate towards you. Also I used G-Axe to 30 and I loved every min of it.

[Mikeb]

Using Great Axe while I was levelling my Warrior was sooo much fun . I've had a few 100+ damage critical hits in EXP parties (before level 30), and Berserk/Double attack was real nice with Great Axe. Shield break is also godly, and Sturmwind does awesome damage considering how early you get it. Tanking was fun as a War/Mnk too - Counterattacks with Great Axe add up to alot of damage, I'd counter 1-5 times per fight usually... Spear is somewhat useful (Double thrust to start distortion), but Great Axe IMO is still the best weapon (good weapon skills, best skill level for warrior, big damage).

[lun4tic]

I mainly stick to axes, but sometimes I'll go axe/sword because swords have some nice effects.

At level 40 I had CC's Axe in main and CC's Scimitar in the other for +10 Atk and +4 Acc. Or was it three? Oh well. Sometimes I'd switch them around if we were fighting bats or if we needed a certain skillchain.

At lower levels it really doesn't matter what weapon people use. I used a great axe, but I've seen several other peoples doing fine with other weapons. It might just be that I don't expect much from lower level parties, but if a dark knight isn't using a scythe or great sword at level fifty, they're considered gimped.

I've seen Drk/Nin dual wield swords which seems gimped to me. War/Nin and Nin get away with it because they have an A in a one handed weapon, but with the power of scythes Drk should really go with that or great swords.

[Bigokk McGock]

I would like to add my experience using a Sword in my off-hand.

I use Bloodsword in my off-hand and have used it ever since 55 when it became available and I can't remember ever seeing it miss (other than when mobs use high evasion boosts and I miss with both Axe and Sword attacks). It's not that I have never missed, but I very rarely ever miss with Sword.

You may not believe this, but it's true.

If some one could explain this I would be greatful.

[bside]

first of all, i don't wanna counter the opinions in this way, but i'm saying this so hopefully others won't get things wrong, wrongly.


WAR is a weapon specialist. i say again, WAR is a specialist in using more weapons than any other jobs.

it is understood, that WAR has the highest weapon rating in Axes, but that doesn't give an excuse of not keeping other weapons up to lvl.

just because WAR has A rating in Axes, that does NOT mean WAR should never use weapons other than Axes. use Axe when u fight Mandoras or Bats, even though ur Polearm skill is at the cap, when they r weak to thrusting attacks? use Axe against Skeletons when ur H2H, if at the cap and w/ help of BRD's songs, could possibly do more dmg? and, still use Axe when there's nobody else who can chain to THF's Viper for Distortion?

before lvl 60, when the weapon rating starts to make more difference, more-atk-and-more-accuracy-so-axes-please idea can go to hell. and don't say WAR/MNK's H2H sucks if u haven't seen how strong that combo can be against skeletons. ever seen WAR/MNK hitting 7-8 times w/ Raging Fists, largely thanks to the AF boots' Double Attack enchancement? i guess not.

[Synbios]

Originally posted by bside
first of all, i don't wanna counter the opinions in this way, but i'm saying this so hopefully others won't get things wrong, wrongly.


WAR is a weapon specialist. i say again, WAR is a specialist in using more weapons than any other jobs.

it is understood, that WAR has the highest weapon rating in Axes, but that doesn't give an excuse of not keeping other weapons up to lvl.

just because WAR has A rating in Axes, that does NOT mean WAR should never use weapons other than Axes. use Axe when u fight Mandoras or Bats, even though ur Polearm skill is at the cap, when they r weak to thrusting attacks? use Axe against Skeletons when ur H2H, if at the cap and w/ help of BRD's songs, could possibly do more dmg? and, still use Axe when there's nobody else who can chain to THF's Viper for Distortion?

before lvl 60, when the weapon rating starts to make more difference, more-atk-and-more-accuracy-so-axes-please idea can go to hell. and don't say WAR/MNK's H2H sucks if u haven't seen how strong that combo can be against skeletons. ever seen WAR/MNK hitting 7-8 times w/ Raging Fists, largely thanks to the AF boots' Double Attack enchancement? i guess not.

I wish we could get at least a B- or B for H2H.. ; ; WARs end game weapon is kinda screwed in a way, supposedly next year, people start getting 4th stage of Dynamis weapons, WARs get erm, Gaxe and Gsword? AF1 is axe, we get to use Mistral, not Spin Slash, and we get to use Relic Gsword instead of Axe, makes you wonder what the developers are smoking when deciding on this.

[lun4tic]

If you sub ninja, the Axe/Sword combo is imperitive. Swords have so many different bonuses that axes don't have, and axes have some bonuses that swords don't have. If you're able to switch them in and out of your main hand you've just doubled the amount of weapon skills you have.

[bside]

Originally posted by Synbios
I wish we could get at least a B- or B for H2H.. ; ; WARs end game weapon is kinda screwed in a way, supposedly next year, people start getting 4th stage of Dynamis weapons, WARs get erm, Gaxe and Gsword? AF1 is axe, we get to use Mistral, not Spin Slash, and we get to use Relic Gsword instead of Axe, makes you wonder what the developers are smoking when deciding on this.

back when lvl 50 was the cap (in other words in the very first stage of ffxi), WAR had B rating in H2H. (no + nor - because there wasn't any distinction of that at that time.) but s-e lowered it down to D, and i don't think they'll get it back up, unfortunately, simply because it got lowered once.

one of the underlying reasons for the nerf was that /THF was too strong back then. SA was 100% hit on ALL of the multi-hitting WS' hits, and critical on all hits also. not to mention DEX bonus was added even to /THF's SA. SA+Raging Fists combo was too strong, that other melees were almost useless. SC was always Raging Fists->RLB->Raging Fists, no matter what u were fighting. thus, WAR/THF and MNK/THF were the 2 most wanted jobs. (THF/MNK was also strong, but due to the fact that THF can only use Raging Fists at 50, which was the cap lvl back then, and also that there was no TA yet, WAR and MNK were more favored.)

[Macht]

Well looks like there isn't much left for me to say here, bside seemed to cover all the basics to what I would of commented.

[Blackwar]

i heard a rumor that picks are worse than axes (even though both of them are axes, i know). Is this true?