Avenger's Earring Question

[Darconis]

The Avenger's Earring gives "Counter"+1.

Does this mean that it also gives the "Counter" ability to those jobs that do not have it or does it mean that it just gives +1 to jobs that already has this ability?

I have read conflicting information on this topic. Has anyone here tested this and came up with a conclusive answer?

Thanks.

[Vinen]

yes.

[Darconis]

Yes to which part of my question V?

[Rupert]

wrong

V doesnt know what he is talking about the answer is No

[Griddlecake]

Only if you have Counter, that it raises it...

Therefore if you sub MNK, yes your Counterattack will raise

[Darconis]

Thanks for the replies everyone.

[Dano]

no, it's not true, if it says counter+1 it means you'll have 1% counter chance regardless of yer subjob, here's one good example:

go here
http://mysterytour.web.infoseek.co.jp/ffxi/us/

go to equipments and check under hand to hand, check out the indra katars , lvl73 Triple attack+1, now look at the jobs that are equipable, surprise ? there's no thf in there, and thieves only get triple attack at lvl55 (or was it 65?) now it's impossible to get to such a lvl as subjob, so what's left is, where the hell does the triple attack comes from? simple, it comes from the equipment, i would assume this applies to all equipments that has the ability+1 on it.

another example,

look at the rasetsu set of equipments, most of em has a latent effect: counter+1 on it, look at the jobs, not only mnks can equip it, sam and nin can use it too. Now i've heard sams and nins reported saying they did countered b4 without mnk as a sub, but it's very rare since it's only 1% or so.

[Ozymandis]

Hmm, so it is 1% chance of counter? I was thinking about getting a pair of these, or one and one Wrestler's Earring, because there just isn't a lot of earring choices for tanking, but the cost is a little high for that 1 or 2%.

[laicram]

Counter rings benefit War/Mnk tank the most (you are building on an existing value rather than "nothing"), and a pair is needed o make it worthwhile.

I want them - the price makes dual Avenger's hard to budget. Beetle earrings +1 are not as good for a War/Mnk tank, but they're cheaper, evade minus helps parry and shield skill up, and they double as Damage Dealing gear.

Oh, the Wrestler Earring (HP up) more for Taru tank, IMO.