Warrior's sub

[Cali]

Job |HP MP STR DEX VIT AGI INT MND CHR
MNK | 972 0 55 50 48 47 37 39 42
PLD | 916 56 56 48 48 46 37 40 43
DRK | 916 56 57 49 46 48 40 37 40
THF | 903 0 54 51 45 50 40 37 40
WHM | 891 95 54 47 45 48 39 42 43

Thanks to a lvl 50 Hume Japanese ^^ all of the above data are tested by a lvl 50 Hume WAR

Advantage of each sub:-

MNK: HP Max up, Martial Art, Boost(for gaining hate), Counter, H2H Ex WS. Dodge, Focus

Thief: Sneak Attack, Trick Attack, Physical Evasion up II. Knife Ex WS, Steal(for gaining hate), Hide and Flee to make pulling easier.

WHM: Divine Seal+Cure to get massive hate, cure for all status ailments, Auto Regen, Clear Mind, Magic Def up

PLD: Phy Def up II, Shield Bash, little MP+ white magic, Sentinel

DRK: Phy Atk up II, Weapon Bash, Last resort, little MP+Black magic, Emfeebling magic

But, after all most important is, test the combination yourself, don't follow the guidelines blindly, you may be able to discover a better combo ^^

[TokeN]

See if he can test out SAM, cuz that isthe best sub after 60, atleast i think it is..:sweat:

[Cali]

No no no, I go... *looks around* I got this off a japanese site without asking is it bad?

anyway, I can get to a stat calculator and see what subbing SAM will do, want? (japanese stat calculator, so I will have to do it myself =/)

[TokeN]

Sounds good to me Cali

[Rico]

Since your'e elvaan I'll only do it for elvaan to lazy to do it for the other races


Elv WAR/SAM

HP 1529
MP 0
STR 88
DEX 67
VIT 70
AGI 59
INT 47
MND 64
CHR 60

Elv WAR/MNK

HP 1529
MP 0
STR 90
DEX 67
VIT 68
AGI 62
INT 45
MND 62
CHR 59

Take mnk to 30 then switch war and take to 60 then switch back to sam and take it to lvl 37 and you'll be set.

[Cali]

as promised~

WAR/SAM 50 Hume(that calculator only let me do to 50 T-T and I'm too lazy to find a better one, since I'm under 40...)

HP 929
MP 0
STR 55
DEX 49
VIT 46
AGI 48
INT 39
MND 39
CHR 42

Skills: Resist Blind, that circle thing for demon resist, TP gain up, third eye.

Not much skills to gain hate, so if you are the attacker WAR, this is good, but for a tank WAR, may be MNK or THF is better?

[Rico]

Tanking go with monk counter and other nice moves can keep hate going. Also you can also get hate with Warcry it's like a backup provoke.

[TokeN]

if MNK is for tankin then what situations are /sam good for?

[Cali]

/sam is for attacking... for skillchain... but like many said.. I think you need meditate to be a good /SAM

[Andorhall]

I agree I dont see /sam being worth it till 60+ before then many other subs have alot more to offer. After 60 though you get meditate and can break most every mob and still be in the renkei. Monk is good sub if you are maintanking, more hp, counter, boost (for hate), dodge, and focus all are nice skills that aid in tanking and getting more hate.

If you are off tanking though thief can be a great sub after level 30 sneak attack + sturmwind is very nice. I can clear 400 damage with this and the sneak attack makes the WS not miss which is excellent.

[TokeN]

Well how are you able to pull of sneak while you are tanking?

[Andorhall]

"off-tanking" meaning you tank if main tank loses aggro....

[Somajan]

Warrior/paladin is almost identical to warrior/monk?! OMFG!!!

but the passive abilities for monk clearly outweigh the passives of a paladin, I'll stick with monk for my warrior.

[Atam]

Thanks for the info, now I don't have to post my question. ^_^

[JJ_Mac]

Sems to be some fishy numbers.

How can a War/Thf have more VIT than a War/Mnk and War/Pld??? Your saying a War/Thf at lvl 50 has 2 more VIT than a War/Mnk?? I thought monks were a 5 in VIT and THF is 3 and SAM is 3?!? :confused:

And a War/Sam has more VIT than a War/Mnk?!? Again I say huh???

Monk has the highest attribute progression in VIT (along with Paladine) at 5 and your saying that a /Sam and a /Thf has more Vit than a /Mnk. If thats the case, then Square/Enix has some serious flaws in thier FFXI system. That is just not logical.

I hope these numbers are wrong somehow, if not, then why play a monk sub if Thiefs and Sam's get more VIT .

Any thoughts? Did I miss something?