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  • Do WAR get better after lvl10?

    Warriors seriously need more abilities or have some MP. In all previous FF games all playable characters had MP and could cast magic spells. A warrior in FFXI seems like it's just hack&slash, can it get any more repetitive?

    I choose WAR so eventually I could use it as a support job for a Dragoon. I'm currently at lvl11 but I don't think I can make it to 30 it's just too borring. I'm seriously considering Reg Mage and become maybe a Summoner later on or something. Seen Red Mages deal equal amount of damage as me at my level and they could use black and white magic, makes me wonder why I havn't switched already . There's got to be something to this, WAR can't blow this much.

    Is it going to get better for warriors?

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  • #2
    It is basicly a hack n slash job..but its THE hack and slash job early on. I am doing at least 3 times the damage with my Great Axe was a war then with my sword at the same lvl when i was a theif. Provoke is also nice to get monsters from chasing people low on HP so you can help with that a lot easier. Hopefully when it comes time to have a party ill have an easier time then when i was a theif..i know ill be doing a lot more damage.
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    • #3
      Well when you party you will want some warriors to do some damage. I myself like warrior and plan on being one in March. Like it was said before, its a hack and slash job. You do get a few cool abilities like double attack and beserk. Another plus to warrior is the array of weaponry you can use. If its boring try another weapon or something. Redmage may be close to Warrior damage wise but it wont stay that way for long. Not to mention, be prepared to be a healer should your party not have a WHM.
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      • #4
        A good warrior is the true leader of the party. Your job is to hunt/pull mobs to the group, choose what you can take, etc. Warrior is also the ideal subjob for any melee class, understanding provoke is the key skill.

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        • #5
          I've played warrior till 30 as of today ^_^. I don't think it's a "boring" job at all - *if* you can get into a party.

          The "boredom" part of being a warrior IMHO, is getting into a party in the first place. On occasions, I've spent hours without being able to get into a party, and I've heard similar horror stories from fellow warriors.

          There's just too much competition from the gazillion other warriors out there. This might change after 30, but I wouldn't know.

          At one point, I was practically ready to give up and change jobs to one of the mage classes (after seeing how easily they got into parties). Given the choice again, I would probably have started off as a RDM or WHM (hindsight is 20-20 =P)

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          • #6
            Just some numbers a guy from our Linkshell put up that I thought I would share.

            On our server, non-Anonymous, 32 percent of the players under level 30 were warriors, 16 percent were whitemages. From level 30 up, 7 percent were warriors, 15 percent were whitemages.

            Warriors may seem like a dime a dozen in the beginning but that's just because they are used as a means to an end. Most of those warriors want to be something else like a dark knight, paladin, dragoon, etc.

            I was level 29 the first group I ever got in where I was the only warrior! Considering I started grouping at about level 12, that's 17 levels of always having more than one warrior in the group! 2-3 warriors isn't a bad thing at the low levels though.

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            • #7
              Soloing = boring
              PTing = very much better

              When you solo, you only hack and slash your way through the monster standing in front of you. No mp, nothing.

              When you party, you can:
              1) tank (taunt, get hit, play a wannabe pld mwaha)
              2) pull (go out, scout stuff and bring home the bacon)
              3) renkei! (shing! amazing special effects! kaboom!)
              in addition to just attacking.

              Also, at lower levels PTs normally have more than one warrior to alternate provokes, in case any one is suffering from tanking too much or in case the mob goes astray (headed to the mages).

              As for getting into PTs -- it is kinda hard at first, but for every party there usually is more than one warrior so there are more openings for them.

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              • #8
                Being a warrior myself i consider it a very good job. At low lvls its a pain but once you reach i lvl when u can party up with people you become a reliable member. All parties need a warrior because it allows the party to survive longer.
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                • #9
                  To me Warrior is a prelude to some of the better jobs that you wish to undertake in the future... In a way I see it like a school and then once you reach 30 and can start getting those advanced jobs; you "graduated". Anyhow, to me its nice because ya you get to play tank (which I like to do) And get to use almost any kind of weapon you want (Obviosly I am leveling up sword for PLD) but it you don't like being the tank the TRY ANOTHER JOB! Thats why Square gave you 6 basic jobs to begin with...

                  As for the Red mage dealing the same damage... Sure at level 10 they do, but once you get to somewhere to around 30; Redmages are only gonna attack about half the time while the cast regen on you Experiment dude... Its the only way to play
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                  • #10
                    I like being a warrior!

                    As others have said, being a warrior is really what you make it.

                    I did quite a bit of soloing early on. Early in the game, WARs can get high XP pretty easy without too much need for resting, especially if you keep your equipment up to date. However, once you get around levels 10-12 and are ready to start moving to the tougher areas (i.e. in my case, to Tahrongi from Windhurst), things start to get where no class can really get decent XP without having to constantly rest for 3 minutes after every fight, and partying up becomes important. Also, I've found doing some of the missions / quests as a warrior to be a lot of fun.

                    Personally, I enjoy being a tank. The honest truth is, while there are a ton of WARs, not very many of them are good in party situations. If you're a really good WAR, you'll make a lot of friends, and you'll be very important to the party. Really, if you're a good WAR, you'll wind up being the party leader, which is a lot of fun. BLMs may hit for higher damage, but you hit so much more often that it kind of evens out. You have a very important job in taunting and making sure everyone is kept alive (just as important as the WHMs' curing), you'll be the one picking what enemies to fight, scouting, leading characters through aggro areas, et cetera.

                    I'm currently a lvl 18 WAR subbing lvl 9 MNK. I'm only going to raise MNK to 15 so I have it useful up until my WAR is lvl 30, at which point I plan to become a PAL/WAR. Tanking may not sound like fun, but I really think it is. The further you get into the game, the more parties HAVE to have a tank, and hopefully a good one. If you can be that ocassional good tank, you'll make a ton of friends, and that's where the real fun is at, because mages, DRKs, etc aren't going to go near heavy aggroing enemies without you.

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                    • #11
                      stymie said the exact route as i am going...my monk is currently lvl 9.6 and i'm planning on getting him to 15...if u wanna deal damage, go with 2h weapons (once you get to partying) with monk, u can boost your attacks and hp is very high for monk...

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                      • #12
                        Your time as a warrior wasn't wasted. You learned some stuff about the game (knowledge=power) and built your parry skill up a little for when you do redmage. Parry seems to go up much slower than other skills like Evasion.

                        Redmage isn't about doing damage. The warrior with his 2-hand axe will be doing a lot more damage than a redmage by level 25, so much so that the redmage might as well start healing through fights instead of attacking.

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                        • #13
                          I'm currently a 10WAR (I got 6 levels in THF before switching over) and about to move to Tahrongi Canyon from Windurst. I've gotten a little discouraged from time to time, especially when having to rest for more time than I spend fighting, but when I got into my first party, I had so much fun -- provoking, tanking, and trying to figure out how to moderate hate was an interesting experience. The overall XP gain wasn't much, but the experience itself was well worth it, and made me look forward to getting higher in level and delving into things like renkei/skillchains. Eventually, I'm going to switch out WAR, but for now, I'm enjoying the class for what it is.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Oddin
                            Well when you party you will want some warriors to do some damage. I myself like warrior and plan on being one in March. Like it was said before, its a hack and slash job. You do get a few cool abilities like double attack and beserk. Another plus to warrior is the array of weaponry you can use. If its boring try another weapon or something. Redmage may be close to Warrior damage wise but it wont stay that way for long. Not to mention, be prepared to be a healer should your party not have a WHM.
                            mmm, I love that double attack. It obliterates even more if your warrior job is coupled with monk as a subjob. Double Attack + Counter = Massacre. That's 3 consecutive hits, one right after the other. 3/4 of a Guillotine.
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                            • #15
                              mmm, I love that double attack. It obliterates even more if your warrior job is coupled with monk as a subjob. Double Attack + Counter = Massacre. That's 3 consecutive hits, one right after the other. 3/4 of a Guillotine.
                              Keep in mind though that Double Attack doesnt always go off every hit and that Counter is even rarer than that. If you want to do three hit combos and such, go with NIN sub. You get Dual Wield and the double attack which lets you attack possibly three times and its more common than Counter. As for it being 3/4 of Guillontine, i highly doubt that. Were talking a high lvled DRK so the strength of the DRK would be significantly higher than a Warriors.
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