War/Nin?

[Calilove]

nyah... Nin/War is way better than war/nin... War Nin might be cool with a Galka, but there are better subs out there. The only real advantage is that it would look dope to have two weapons and big old warrior armor.

Although if high level one handed weapons with huge stat gains are WAR only, this might be another advantage... but I cant really comment on this

[lun4tic]

Why the fuck not be both?

Obviously if you start out as a War, your going to have to level up as Nin. So thats Nin/War for a while. Then when you want to change, you can go straight back to War/Nin!

Just save your armor. :D

[Calilove]

indeed. why the fuck not? strange that our greatest wisdom comes from a .... lunatic... no?:sweat:

[Rudo]

Wouldn't a WAR/NIN be the ultimate tank? They're better than PLD/WAR because of Blink negating any damage plus their higher offense which leads to more hate. Have a THF transfering hate and he'll be taking 99% of the hits. They would also be better than NIN/WAR because of their higher offense and defense. This means that not only will they have an easier time gaining hate, but even if they get hit between Blinks they still have good enough defense to keep the mages from going heal crazy.

This obviously only works if you have enough gil to blow on enough Ninjitsu powder for each PT. Of course, this all falls apart if the lower level Blink spells don't work against high lvl monsters and a NIN subjob just doesn't cut it. Anybody with any ingame experience on this please clear it up.

[Aaramis]

I would think either combo would work, no?

The WAR/NIN would have higher hps and DEF, while the NIN/WAR would have better evade/parry.

As for dual wield, having dual swords, katanas, or axes (or whatever you fancy) with +accuracy and procs on them, would be a very nice thing.

Sure, you can't tank as well (lack of shield), but you can dish it out a bit better now, *and* you have blink ninjutsu to save your life if it gets hairy.
And hey, that's what Paladins with their shields and invincibility are for, right? :p

[Xeross]

Originally posted by lun4tic
Warriors are as proficient in 1 handed weapons as they are in 2h weapons. They have a B in both 1 and 2 handed swords, and an A- in one handed and two handed axe.

Wrong, they are A+ in 2h axe. And the main, and I mean MAIN reason WARs are wanted in later levels is for shield break(a 2h axe weapon skill).

Now mabye a /NIN would work, only just don't duel weild. It's not like you are losing anything, just the neat look of two weapons. A WAR with ninjitsu might be alright, but you have to remember that the max level is half of the main. And I believe the decent ninjitsu stuff doesnt come till level 40ish.

So basicly you would just be a War w/ shitty vit, shitty str, and high dex with crappy ninjitsu.

That would make for one paper tank(i.e. You can tank, but you take way too much friggen damage to be helpful to the group)

[Aaramis]

You're missing the point though.

The whole point of subbing NIN *is* to dual wield. And when you do that, you're giving up your shield.
You're not making a tank, you're making an all-out attacker, just like a 2h axe WAR is, or a polearm WAR, etc, etc.

And yes, your hps will be less than if you subbed MNK, or something else, but if you need to tank you'll have blink ninjutsu still.

If you want to be a tank, you play the shield WAR role, or shield PAL, or blink Ninja.

It's a novelty combo, that's all.
Where the 2h axe War might do more dmg with double attack, the dual wielder could do more on average due to the extra bonuses from a second weapon (dual procs, or +atk/accuracy on each blade means you'll hit more often).

That's all.

[Deodorant]

Originally posted by Aaramis
The whole point of subbing NIN *is* to dual wield ... It's a novelty combo, that's all.

But potentially a very effective one. What if you subbed nin for blink, and not for dual wield? Nin/wars are arguably as good a tank as paladins are, but they suffer somewhat from horrible dabage output. What about war/nins? With great axe you could perform just as well as a secondary damage dealer/shield break, and with blink ninjutsu the lack of defense compared to paladin is insignificant. Granted, you wouldn't have as much hate-keeping capability as the paladin, but in contrast you'd do more damage (and probably take less, too).

Then again, I don't recall ever seeing a single war/nin, ever. Maybe there's some reason that I haven't taken into account?