Why is warrior so bad ?

[McClane]

I'm now lvl 11 warrior and I don't really know what is good about a warrior, I thought when I chose it, it was the best thing voor sword combat, but I am not sure now.

My friend is a lvl 11 red mage and well he's just as strong (if not stronger than me).

We play at the same time at the same place, both lvl 11, I have a better armor and a better sword and still I can't take a lot of monsters he can.

A red mage can get a lot of spells and a warrior can really do nothing more then hit the enemy. I wouldn't mind that if the warrior would be a stronger character than mages, but I don't see it at this moment.

Am I maybe missing something, how can a mage be equel/better then a warrior in fighting, even when the warrior has better items?

[vissione]

Once you level higher, the difference will be much more aparent.

You've got taunt, he doesn't, which means you can use your defense to protect him and the others. You also will get berserk at lvl 15, that will increase your attack power by quite a lot. As your RDM friend levels along you, he'll soon be forced to lay off the sword whacking since he'll be getting better magic and his STR won't be as high as yours.

When you get your subjob you'll see that STR gap widen even more, since most likely your RDM friend will sub a mage job. (He has to at higher levels since /WAR is only effective till 20ish.)

[dragoon]

Don't worry about that i to early to judge now wait to you get to lv. 20 to judge

Warrior have a mighty good def. and they can use a whole section of weapon to use from and along with there good attack don't forget taunt so you can protect anybody that need protection

[GearType2]

I was under the impression that 1h and 2h axes were a warriors best weapons. Although swords is not far behind, you might want to give it a shot.

A war is not a dmg dealer imo, it's more of a tank. You'll never out damage say a thief, or a black mage, but you should be damned if you can't hits and pull aggro with provoke. Eventually you'll get your 2nd strike type attack, which allows you to sometimes hit twice, which from what I've seen, is very very nice. Anyways, to make it simple, warrior is not really a high dmg class. They do dmg, great dmg actually, but their real strength is in their abilites and naturally high defense. Kinda like how a red mages strength is really in their flexibility, and how a dark knight can just whip out the damage like it's a wet salmon... i really need to stop with the similes, i'm terrible with them. I hope this makes sense.

[Maxim]

I duoed as a RDM with a WAR friend of mine since around level 13, and now we're both around level 50 and the difference is huge. At low levels, both RDM and WAR get access to the same armor, and same type of one-handed swords, so there is no huge difference. But as soon as you both hit level 24, the WAR will be able to equip that neat looking chainmail armor, while the RDM is left with light armor.

As you go along even further, the WAR will get double attack, Berserk, Defender, and the difference in strength and defense is going to be... well... extremely obvious. Keep in mind that WARs are allowed to use a variety of weapons such as one-handed sword, two-handed sword, one-handed axe, two-handed axe, spear, and scythe. Out of all of those, the RDM is restricted to the one-handed sword only, which is nothing compared to some of the two-handed weapons. For example, my WAR friend can do 150 with a two-handed axe, while I'm doing about 20 damage with my sword. =P

[Rico]

Really no job is bad each job has there pro's can con's.

[ZODIAC]

when i use 2 handed sword

my war miss the terget many times

put 2 handed scyth

you get high attack and dont miss many times


i wana suggestion

what should u get for my war

1 handed axe

2 handed axe

2 handed spear

thanks

[Barrett]

you should use all of those 3 weapons. you might not need 1H axe right away, but you'll be asked to use it later on.

[Sirius Black]

WAR Weapons

The Warrior is a very gifted class weapon wise. Their abilities allow you to use any of these rather proficiently:

-Dagger
-1H Sword
-2H Sword
-1H Axe
-2H Axe
-Scythe
-Spear
-1H Staff
-2H Staff

(Plus they have average grappling skills and since you have a MNK sub you may want to look at it)

Aside from that though, they are the MOST proficient at the 2 Axes, so that will always be their strongest weapon and the easiest to lvl up. At this point you just need to choose 1H or 2H. 2H will most likly give you more strength, where as 1H would probably be more accurate. The other thing to consider is their WS:

1H
Legend Axe - Attacks 2 times (which can help TP)
Smash - Adds stun effect (Probably not that useful)
Raphar Axe - Adds choke effect (Again not great)
Avalanche Axe - Attacks 1 time (more Attack)
Spining Axe - Attacks multiple targets (Reasonable)
Rampage - Attacks 5 times (Most impressive, can you say TP?)
Karamitei - Attacks 1 time (Probably lots of DMG)

2H
Shield Break - Adds target's evasion down (I think the 1H's 1st is better)
Iron Tempest - Attacks 1 time (Add DMG)
ShootWarum - Attacks 1 time (Add DMG)
Armor Break - Adds target's defense down (pretty useful in other FFs not sure for XI)
King Edge - Attacks multiple targets (Like Spinning Axe)
Weapon Break - Adds target's attack power down (see armor break only better)
Raging Rush - Attacks 3 times (heres your money skill)

So it's up to you, I think Rampage is the best of them all, but Raging Rush is just barely behind it. I think all in all I would personally take the 2H. Keep in mind though you won't get a sheild this way (not sure if WAR gets sheild anyway) and you would essentially become more of an attacker and less of a tanker the choice is yours though.

[Ultimate]

Originally posted by McClane
I'm now lvl 11 warrior and I don't really know what is good about a warrior, I thought when I chose it, it was the best thing voor sword combat, but I am not sure now.

My friend is a lvl 11 red mage and well he's just as strong (if not stronger than me).

We play at the same time at the same place, both lvl 11, I have a better armor and a better sword and still I can't take a lot of monsters he can.

A red mage can get a lot of spells and a warrior can really do nothing more then hit the enemy. I wouldn't mind that if the warrior would be a stronger character than mages, but I don't see it at this moment.

Am I maybe missing something, how can a mage be equel/better then a warrior in fighting, even when the warrior has better items?

Is your friend also a human like you, it can make the difference. Especially if he is an elvaan.

[Bean Bandit]

As GearType2 has stated, a warrior class is known for front line defense for the support class, which will be most everyone else.

I remember fighting alongside with my friend in Dangruf Wadi. For just one day, we decided to form a party with each other, even though we were very much apart in everything. He was a male TaruTaru at level 20, but he did not attempt the subjob quest yet. His primary job was a BLM. I was a female Hume warrior at level 12 (now 14). We fought a Goblin Ambusher with high defense and the first 3 blows, he ended up taking before I had managed to "provoke" the monster to take the blows for him. Although the Goblin did MAJOR damage on my character, those three blows reduced his character to only 25 HPs. My character held out for 5 blows leaving me with 70 HP before we defeated the creature (his Blizzard spell took 3/4 of the Goblin's HP per cast, but he only used it once just to see how much damage I could inflict, which wasn't much). This example goes to show that GearType2 is right, a warrior or two is indispensible, especially for any party consisting of mage class characters.

Bean Bandit

[lun4tic]

Great weapons, aka two handed, usually have a long delay in their attacks, and thats less chance on actually hitting the target. I use a scythe, and a sword with my warrior, and the scythe does great damage, but the sword barely misses compard to the scythe. Great swords, and great axes both have a super huge delay in them, so you gotta try both.

[McClane]

I tried 2h axe for a while and must say it makes a huge difference, and came to lvl 17 and started to notive the difference more. So I just needed some patience, the difference is much bigger @ higher lvl's.

I changed worldserver know and I am now also @ ragnarok ^^, doing the same thing, same warrior, same large axe ^^

[lun4tic]

I guess since warrior has an A in axe and around a C in scythe then yea it does make that difference :sweat:

[joey_pizz]

It might get a little spendy at the start but train weapons when ur low LV'd. Makes it a lot easier.

train 1h axe 2h axe and maybe 1h sword.

I wouldnt bother with the 2h sword as it is Warriors C weapon "i believe" and you get better dmg with a 1h sword or any axe.

Hope that helps, and btw

WARRIOR DOES NOT SUCK!!!!