Tips for upcoming THF

[hongman]

Re: Tips for upcoming THF

Well, last night I went THF/WAR, Sword, Rice Dumplings. PT 1 and 2 were all nubs (War and monk asking if I had a spare weapon, lol) but PT 3 was a great success. PLD tank who I have seen around (maybe even meripo'ed with?) and turns out to be a great laugh.

Changed my macro to

/ja Sneak Attack
/wait 1
/ws "Fast Blade" <t>

Which worked a charm. Got 2 Balance Rings and 2 Bone +1, macroed respectively.

And it was really not bad. Went through seriously bad spells of missing bolts (like 10 in a row) but I couldnt expect much tbh.

I have also decided to go Dagger from 28, Ill be in the Jungles, Archer's looks real nice (esp if I am Dual Wielding) and Mandy's are weak to piercing I think.

Not got RNG levelled, and honestly, I think I'm ok with /WAR till 24. Not denying /RNG wouldnt be great but Im lazy - plus I have been offered to static my THF from 20 -> ?? , but we start this Sunday, so pushed for time as it is.

Overall - THF is fun! Not as boring as other auto-attack-go-watch-tv-and-hit-WS-macro jobs.

[hongman]

Re: Tips for upcoming THF

Just noticed THF has really high base INT, and AF has INT as well. What is this for? lolElementalWs?

Also, someone mentioned Jack'O's, but they carry -CHR, according to Wiki, CHR has a 40% Mod on SA, which is more than DEX?

[ItazuraNhomango]

Re: Tips for upcoming THF

Mandragora should be weak to piercing, yes.

I still say you're better off setting up macros with no /wait:
mrc1: /ja "Boost: <me>
mrc2: /ja "Sneak Attack" <me>
mrc3: /ws "Fast Blade" <t>

Just hold on to the <ctrl> or <alt> key, and press them one after another.

[Tokitoki]

Re: Tips for upcoming THF

Also, someone mentioned Jack'O's, but they carry -CHR, according to Wiki, CHR has a 40% Mod on SA, which is more than DEX?

SA mod is only DEX. Dancing Edge has the CHR mod.

[hongman]

Re: Tips for upcoming THF

Ah, I think I was looking at the wrong page when I wrote that.

I'm tired

[Armando]

Re: Tips for upcoming THF

Jack-o-Lanterns aren't a good food for the same reason Sushi isn't at this level. 10 Acc (which is just Hit Rate +5%) doesn't justify passing on the 20% Attack bonus + 5 Acc from Rice Dumplings or the 25% Attack boost from normal foods. CHR is also a modifier on Shadowstitch but in general forget about modifiers.

[hongman]

Re: Tips for upcoming THF

but in general forget about modifiers.

May I ask why?

[Armando]

Re: Tips for upcoming THF

In almost every WS pumping STR does better, and in the case of THF then DEX or AGI for SA/TA is more important with the exception of Dancing Edge since it's 5 hits. Modifiers are just for filling in random slots where you can't put any Accuracy/Attack/STR/DEX/AGI.

[Malacite]

Re: Tips for upcoming THF

The lanterns are very good for THF, especially if you're using sword. THF only has a D ranking in sword remember, so there's a 7 point discrepancy I believe by the time you hit the dunes (5 or 7 I don't remember) making +10 accuracy a rather large influence. The evasion is great too for pulling. And sushi is purely for ranged accuracy and I can't say I recommend it, but if you really want it go with squid sushi.

That said, especially if you're using dagger, mutton rocks until you're past the jungles. Then you want to switch to Dhalmel/Wild Steaks until 200 base attack.

[711rocks]

Re: Tips for upcoming THF

Just noticed THF has really high base INT, and AF has INT as well. What is this for? lolElementalWs?
Also, someone mentioned Jack'O's, but they carry -CHR, according to Wiki, CHR has a 40% Mod on SA, which is more than DEX?

I remember seeing a test that Archain did where it seemed one of the dagger MP drain WSs mods was INT and the other seemed to be MND.

No one worries about chr for DE lol

[Armando]

Re: Tips for upcoming THF

The lanterns are very good for THF, especially if you're using sword. THF only has a D ranking in sword remember, so there's a 7 point discrepancy I believe by the time you hit the dunes (5 or 7 I don't remember) making +10 accuracy a rather large influence. The evasion is great too for pulling. And sushi is purely for ranged accuracy and I can't say I recommend it, but if you really want it go with squid sushi.

That still doesn't change that it's giving up a 20 or 25% Attack buff to get +5% hit rate. If you wouldn't eat Jack-o-Lanterns on a job with an A-ranked weapon, then why would you on THF? 7 skill is only a 3.5% hit rate difference, that's not even perceivable through observation. In any case the skill difference works against your Attack as well so that reasoning could be applied both ways.

Just look at it side by side:
+2.5% hit rate, +20% Attack (Rice Dumplings)
OR
+5% hit rate

[Ayrlie]

Re: Tips for upcoming THF

marksmanship is important, you want it leveled for acid bolts (especially when going against crabs and crawlers), and later for soloing (see below)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m81Rj40BJhs[/youtube]

oh yeah I been soloing white onions in boyahda and been pulling off 1500 Dancing Edges on them (i'll post screenshots later, I'm very tired)

[Tokitoki]

Re: Tips for upcoming THF

Needs more Sleep > SA and SAWS.

[hongman]

Re: Tips for upcoming THF

Ding 20....

[Malacite]

Re: Tips for upcoming THF

How can you say that accuracy +10 isn't huge? Especially when you have a 7-point deficiency on sword vs dagger (also Mutton, if you eat it is 27% attack up for 3 hours; 4 if you use HQ)

it's hard to say. If you're falling behind on TP (and I was personally when I did THF) then use the jacko's (or squid sushi if you *really* can't land acid bolts. also gives a boost to SA damage) or if you can hit often enough go with the mutton for a hefty attack boost.

The jack's are especially good for soloing too >.> but over all, I agree the meat is better. Just don't dismiss the jacks outright if your accuracy is suffering on sword.


And to the OP: I'd seriously consider leveling RNG up. Not only is it nice for levels 20-29, but it comes in very handy when farming or NM camping. Having Treasure Hunter II and Widescan at the higher levels can really make a difference in your odds of claiming an NM and getting the drop.