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  • #31
    Re: THF/MNK [Impossible to Gauge?]

    Originally posted by Vyuru View Post
    who is the best dancer, subligar clad Galka dancers or Tarutaru dancers.
    this is not a myth. it is taru taru w/o a doubt.

    i was more thinking of stuff like...

    Does CHR affect provoke?

    or even a funnier one, i heard some guy in my ls ranting about some crap he read on allakashitter... some thing like if you have dark energy + millionaries desk it gives you th.

    i almost couldnt contain myself. then he said there were tests done on this on alla.

    i almost couldnt contain myself again.

    dont know why he's in my ls though... >.> /glares at officers.

    where do people come up with this stuff?
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    • #32
      Re: THF/MNK [Impossible to Gauge?]

      I remember when BLU came out and everyone was saying CHR definetely affected physical blue magic accuracy.

      Have you ever wondered how Mithra reproduce? Supposedly there's male Mithra, just exceedingly rare; however, the game lore also states they're not allowed to leave Kazham. Yet the Mithra population is plentiful, and there are Mithra kittens in every nature. If they're getting laid by other races, wouldn't the children look at least slightly different? And then there's the fact that a surprisingly high ammount of FFXI h-doujins feature Mithra dickgirls. Makes you wonder.

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      • #33
        Re: THF/MNK [Impossible to Gauge?]

        Originally posted by Armando View Post
        And then there's the fact that a surprisingly high ammount of FFXI h-doujins feature Mithra dickgirls. Makes you wonder.
        You just had to say it, didn't you? Nothing ruins a perfect lesbian sequence better. Ick.

        Moving on... Boost + WS is a half-powered Berserk (+12.5% attack according to FFXIclopedia).

        Thf/nin with sword main/dagger offhand is very nice. It may not be ideal DPS, but it certainly gives you some consistency. Through the 20s, there's a plethora of dagger/knife choices with great stat boosts. Of course, the bastok ones suck. Sword main (I used Small Sword since I thought I'd get the same SA damage with slightly higher accuracy -- I had spent a million and didn't want to waste another cent on the HQ flame sword thingy that never existed when I wanted it) with the Federation Knife offhand is wonderful. The accuracy and attack is of course great for the dagger DoT, but it also helps fill the hole left by your D rank sword. The other great thing about this combo was that it made me able to solo ~40% of a Goblin Smithy when i was 25 or 26. :D After my SA Fast blade, I blink tanked him 'til bad luck came and I had to zone. I used Thf/nin mostly through Qufim levels (though I beat the shit out of beetles in Saur[tab key] first 'cuz that camp rocks). and 1-2 kazham before falling back into thf/mnk.

        Baghnakhs +1 were great. Armando's prolly right and I prolly woulda been better off single-wielding Sword but... Gosh SA Combo is nice.

        Some random things that I couldn't find a place for in that big paragraph above:
        I didn't replace that level 25 Federation Knife 'til Federation Kukri @34. Though I did use an Archer's knife offhand levels 30-33. The moment I learned VB, I was /war.

        I never ate sushi 'til 30, though I experimented with a lot of food. My acc was mostly unchanging.

        I shot Acid bolts a lot w/out /rng. The acc sucks but 2-3 tries/mob with ~40% acc means many wouldn't have defense down for opening SA(TA), but they would usually get tagged before the mob was so weak that it wasn't worth it.
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        • #34
          Re: THF/MNK [Impossible to Gauge?]

          ou just had to say it, didn't you? Nothing ruins a perfect lesbian sequence better. Ick.
          So true, what the hell is up with that @ . @;;;


          As for the issue of fur, there's at least one NPC in windurst that confirms this, they do indeed have fur <(^-^)> /hurray
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          • #35
            Re: THF/MNK [Impossible to Gauge?]

            Perhaps mithra genes are evolutionarilly(??) dominant. That is to say, to allow Mithra to cross breed, the genes that create a Mithra-F supercede those of, say, an Elvaan-M in a Punett Square. This developement evolved as the mithra ventured into Windurst and whatnot.

            ...Or that's an excuse, and Mithra REALLY reproduce in some hot lesbian fashion. Excellent! (air-guitar sounds)
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            • #36
              Re: THF/MNK [Impossible to Gauge?]

              Originally posted by Lmnop
              You just had to say it, didn't you? Nothing ruins a perfect lesbian sequence better. Ick.
              Originally posted by Malacite
              So true, what the hell is up with that @ . @;;;
              We'll have to agree to disagree on this one :3 As for the fur thing, yeah, I think I read something like that.
              Originally posted by W.o.t.W.
              Perhaps mithra genes are evolutionarilly(??) dominant. That is to say, to allow Mithra to cross breed, the genes that create a Mithra-F supercede those of, say, an Elvaan-M in a Punett Square. This developement evolved as the mithra ventured into Windurst and whatnot.

              ...Or that's an excuse, and Mithra REALLY reproduce in some hot lesbian fashion. Excellent! (air-guitar sounds)
              Both theories are interesting, but I think I prefer the lesbian sex one. I mean, if lizards can do it, so can catwomen, right? Right?
              Originally posted by Lmnop
              I shot Acid bolts a lot w/out /rng. The acc sucks but 2-3 tries/mob with ~40% acc means many wouldn't have defense down for opening SA(TA), but they would usually get tagged before the mob was so weak that it wasn't worth it.
              Oh and this is quoted for truth. I don't care if it takes me four shots to do it, sticking that Acid Bolt is soooooooo worth it. -12.5% Defense down just makes me go " ."

              Also. In the freak chance your party is fighting Wendigoes in Qufim, THF/MNK is really awesome. I mean, it used to be a stupid idea, but now that Blue Mage exists, with Bludgeon and Healing Breeze, it doesn't seem that stupid anymore. BLU/WAR BLU/NIN THF/MNK could probably rip them apart faster than a Kenyan mangrove crab rips tanks apart. Throw in some Red Lotus Blade -> SA Combo + Fusion with Fire and Banish (double damage on Undead, hurray!) MBs and you're looking at some really nice killing power.

              Damn. I never thought I'd see the day where fighting bones in a standard-ish party would seem fun. Someone hold me; everything I believed in was wrong D:

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              • #37
                Re: THF/MNK [Impossible to Gauge?]

                Someone hold me; everything I believed in was wrong D:

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                • #38
                  Re: THF/MNK [Impossible to Gauge?]

                  Originally posted by Armando View Post
                  We'll have to agree to disagree on this one :3
                  Dude, the only appeal to a lesbian scene is that there aren't any Penii of any sort. This "dickgirl" creation completely nullifies any satisfaction garnered from such a sequence. Not that I care about anything involving sexuality >.>;; I'm just a cold Elvaan Warrior who only thinks of battle or... something.

                  And bones take double damage from banish/fire? I knew they kicked their asses, but I didn't know that much. I'ma have to try this layout when I level BLU (though i'll prolly just grab a Mnk instead of a thf/mnk). Indeed, the greatest part of the advent of Blue mage was that there was finally another Fusion opener for MNK. This has long been the problem with HtH - the only jobs that could SC with them were Paladins who were resting their mp back and RNGs who'd rather not be using dulling/ flaming arrow. Of course, no one SCs anymore so go figure...

                  And they're not Wendigos in Qufim :3 they're Wights.

                  I did make incredible Fusions on Goblins in my days as thf/mnk though. Incredible!
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                  • #39
                    Re: THF/MNK [Impossible to Gauge?]

                    Dude, the only appeal to a lesbian scene is that there aren't any Penii of any sort. This "dickgirl" creation completely nullifies any satisfaction garnered from such a sequence. Not that I care about anything involving sexuality >.>;; I'm just a cold Elvaan Warrior who only thinks of battle or... something.
                    There's still boobs involved. Symmetrical docking ftw.

                    Oh, that's right, Wights. But, no, they don't take double damage from Fire. It's just that Banish does double damage to all undead (aside from temporarily stripping them of their physical damage resistances.) And yeah, starting Fusion isn't so easy without a BLU or a smart low-level melee RDM D:

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                    • #40
                      Re: THF/MNK [Impossible to Gauge?]

                      Originally posted by Armando View Post
                      And yeah, starting Fusion isn't so easy without a BLU or a smart low-level melee RDM D:
                      Well, Hot Shot/Flaming Arrow, Punch, and Tachi: Kagero can also open Fusion.

                      In my static party, the PLD (me) starts off Fusion with Red Lotus Blade and let the Red Mage do his weapon-switch-blink routine of spelling casting. Many low level NIN's use the Sword + Katana combination, so they can open Fusion as well.

                      There are plenty of options for opening Fusion. >_>
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                      • #41
                        Re: THF/MNK [Impossible to Gauge?]

                        Originally posted by Armando View Post
                        Have you ever wondered how Mithra reproduce? Supposedly there's male Mithra, just exceedingly rare; however, the game lore also states they're not allowed to leave Kazham. Yet the Mithra population is plentiful, and there are Mithra kittens in every nature. If they're getting laid by other races, wouldn't the children look at least slightly different?
                        Yearly pilgramage to get laid in Kazam. ^..^

                        Originally posted by Lmnop View Post
                        Dude, the only appeal to a lesbian scene is that there aren't any Penii of any sort. This "dickgirl" creation completely nullifies any satisfaction garnered from such a sequence. Not that I care about anything involving sexuality >.>;; I'm just a cold Elvaan Warrior who only thinks of battle or... something.

                        And bones take double damage from banish/fire? I knew they kicked their asses, but I didn't know that much. I'ma have to try this layout when I level BLU (though i'll prolly just grab a Mnk instead of a thf/mnk).
                        I've never noticed undead taking extra damage from fire beyond what everything else gets from it but banish works nicely on them. after using banish or Flash my club damage seems to increase for a little bit also. (From leveling club and devine in Seaserpent Grotto).

                        BTW any information on thief damage with /war vs /nin in the 40+ range?

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                        • #42
                          Re: THF/MNK [Impossible to Gauge?]

                          Fighting Wendigoes has always been possible in standard exp parties hasn't it? Or maybe I was just in a few more crazy parties than other people. As drg I'd use Raiden Thrust to close Fusion on 'em, it never seemed to get the damage reduction that Double Thrust gets, plus it almost never misses which is pretty damn nice.


                          Have you ever wondered how Mithra reproduce? Supposedly there's male Mithra, just exceedingly rare; however, the game lore also states they're not allowed to leave Kazham. Yet the Mithra population is plentiful, and there are Mithra kittens in every nature.
                          I thought the males couldn't leave the homeland to the south, Kazham is just an outpost of the mithran empire to my understanding.


                          Symmetrical docking ftw.
                          After being told what a circle jerk was awhile ago, dare I ask what you mean by symmetrical docking? >.>

                          And I dunno, I've never been that into porn like some of the other guys I know, and at best a steamy hot lesbian scene get's a, "hmmm, nice" response from me.

                          I prefer the pics that aren't really porn/hentai, but aren't really, well innocent shall we say, and showing a bit of leg

                          Most of the pics in the 4chan anime/cute section and a few from the ecchi section fall under that category.

                          And yes, I do rather favor the Drg AF pants, Feral pants, and the like on Mithra


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                          • #43
                            Re: THF/MNK [Impossible to Gauge?]

                            Well, Hot Shot/Flaming Arrow, Punch, and Tachi: Kagero can also open Fusion.
                            RNGs suck on bones though ; ; And getting a SMN to skillchain isn't so easy...but you're right, Hot Shot/Flaming Arrow and Kagero flew right over my head. I don't know why.
                            Yearly pilgramage to get laid in Kazam. ^..^
                            Wouldn't work, the dudes would die before impregnating the whole Vana'diel population of Mithra.
                            Fighting Wendigoes has always been possible in standard exp parties hasn't it?
                            It is, but it kinda sucks. Anyone that's not a blunt weapon user takes a damage penalty, and they have AoE damage + blind, AoE drain, Slow, Hell Slash...no matter which TP move they use, it kinda screws you over. Unless the party is designed specifically for bone-killing, they tend to be way more trouble than they're worth.
                            As drg I'd use Raiden Thrust to close Fusion on 'em, it never seemed to get the damage reduction that Double Thrust gets, plus it almost never misses which is pretty damn nice.
                            It's 'cuz it's a magic WS. It can't miss at all.
                            I thought the males couldn't leave the homeland to the south, Kazham is just an outpost of the mithran empire to my understanding.
                            Oh. Now that makes a lot of sense now.
                            After being told what a circle jerk was awhile ago, dare I ask what you mean by symmetrical docking? >.>
                            Yes, you want to know. This is a prime example of symmetrical docking. I consider it the second hottest thing two girls can do (with the first being tribadism.)
                            And yes, I do rather favor the Drg AF pants, Feral pants, and the like on Mithra
                            Damn...I have this one picture of a Mithra Dragoon in AF, but it's hentai.

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                            • #44
                              Re: THF/MNK [Impossible to Gauge?]

                              Wouldn't work, the dudes would die before impregnating the whole Vana'diel population of Mithra.
                              DEATH BY SNOO SNOO! Ah, to be the Mithran Cabin Boy on a long voyage >.>b

                              EDIT: What in the hell is a Circle Jerk? Or Tribadism for that matter >.>
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                              • #45
                                Re: THF/MNK [Impossible to Gauge?]

                                Originally posted by Malacite View Post
                                DEATH BY SNOO SNOO! Ah, to be the Mithran Cabin Boy on a long voyage >.>b

                                EDIT: What in the hell is a Circle Jerk? Or Tribadism for that matter >.>
                                This thread has derailed enough from what was originally a thoughtful discussion of THF using hand-to-hand weapons. Please look up the irrelevant vocabulary via Wiki or Google on your own.
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