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    Double Daggers or Mithran Scimitar?

    I'm lvl 34 thief at the moment and have gotten to the point where it's time to upgrade my weapon. I was thinking of getting a Federation Kukri, but I've also been wearing Mithran Scimitar in my offhand since I made the switch to main hand dagger at 33. But I'm also hearing that you gain TP faster going double daggers. Should I ditch the scimitar and get 2 kukri instead foir faster TP gain? Or is the +3 dex from Mithran Scimitar worth it?

    EDIT: It's +3 dex actually. Brain is broken.
    Last edited by nanatsu; 11-13-2005, 11:16 AM.
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    Re: Double Daggers or Mithran Scimitar?

    I'd say yes... Schimitar delay is so slow and since its a lower rating (B or C) you'll gain TP slower becaus you'll have less acc. Plus the dual wield modifier is only .1 from Dual Wield I so delay isnt taken off much


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      Re: Double Daggers or Mithran Scimitar?

      If you have sword skill leveled, I think it could be worth it, when you dont have the Atk bonus from Federation Kukri. Try to find out yourself if you have enough TP to do sata+VB every start of battle. ^^
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        Re: Double Daggers or Mithran Scimitar?

        just my 2c, fast sword actually works really nice with SATA and the damage isn't worse than viper at all. What i'd do is i'll hold 1 dagger and 1 mithran sword and switch them around between main hand and off hand to see which one I like it's WS damage better.
        There's again some nice +dex +agi sword around level 55 too which when put in main hand, sata fast blade even does more damage than viper.
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          Re: Double Daggers or Mithran Scimitar?

          Hmm? is it a new rare/ex sword of some kind? I'm not aware of any sword at level 55 with those kinds of stats that thf can equip. Only thing that's anywhere near that range is lvl 60 Greed Scimitar for +7 Dex but no agi boost.

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          And the only problem with having one dagger and one sword is TP gain which is why I asked the question. I'm worried my TP gain won't be fast enough becasue of lowered delay and accuracy. My sword will pretty much be capped for a very long time though.
          Last edited by nanatsu; 11-13-2005, 02:16 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
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            Re: Double Daggers or Mithran Scimitar?

            Sword really isnt a good thing to be using much past 33. They delay is too long and the skill gap keeps getting further from the dagger cap >.>


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              Re: Double Daggers or Mithran Scimitar?

              Originally posted by Tokitoki
              Sword really isnt a good thing to be using much past 33. They delay is too long and the skill gap keeps getting further from the dagger cap >.>
              So you don't think the +3 dex will be of any use to my SATA at all? Slightly faster TP gain is worth more than the +3 dex?
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                Re: Double Daggers or Mithran Scimitar?

                I was never aware that fast blade was as good as viper around 30range :\
                Don't really see why u would sacrifice delay and accuracy for a +3dex sword.
                Schimitars are ugly also.
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                  Re: Double Daggers or Mithran Scimitar?

                  You shouldn't have any accuracy problem with squid sushi. I mean, I used greed (which is what I was thinking probably) long before the sushi was available and with life belt alone I didn't notice any huge drop in accuracy. I still hit fine and gain TP just like other DD.
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                    Re: Double Daggers or Mithran Scimitar?

                    I had some times where Fast Blade actually did MORE than Viper Bite. The nice thing about VB though is that damage is very consistent with it, Fast Blade's damage is all over the place, even more so the higher level you use it.
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                      Re: Double Daggers or Mithran Scimitar?

                      Originally posted by Jei
                      You shouldn't have any accuracy problem with squid sushi. I mean, I used greed (which is what I was thinking probably) long before the sushi was available and with life belt alone I didn't notice any huge drop in accuracy. I still hit fine and gain TP just like other DD.
                      I don't particularly use sushi though. I don't suffer that much in accuracy yet to need it It's not that I'm lacking horribly in accuracy. I'm just worried about the rate at which I gain TP. Should I be gaining it faster? This si the stuff I'm thinking about. Also. right now my Dex is +19. Without the Mithran Scimitar it'll be sitting at +16. That seems way too low to me. Other than camping LL (which I hate doing), that scimitar supplies a huge dex bonus to me.

                      The reason why I don't use sushi is because I need to balance myself with str and attack too. I have a lot of dex and agi equipment. Balance is important and the str and atk from atk food is important also. So if I go with squid sushi I'll have to pile on str and atk equips instead to make up for what is lost.
                      Last edited by nanatsu; 11-13-2005, 03:48 PM.
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                        Re: Double Daggers or Mithran Scimitar?

                        what is your current gear setup?
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                          Re: Double Daggers or Mithran Scimitar?

                          slower weapon gives more TP per hit so I think that balances it out.
                          Anyway, best to give it a try if the sword isn't too expensive :D
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                            Re: Double Daggers or Mithran Scimitar?

                            Not if you're dual wielding. If you're TP/hit goes down to 5 for both the sword and dagger its clearly not worth it.


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                              Re: Double Daggers or Mithran Scimitar?

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