Level 65 - Shopping Question

[guyincorporated]

Heya, I happen to find myself with a decent pile of gil (about $1M) and I’m looking at stuff to buy. I’ve already got the staples – Hairpin, Sniper’s, Cermet Kukri+1 – and I’m looking at what next to buy (I just hit 65). Thieves, I’m looking for some advice here.

Three items stand out:
1. Venemous Claw – (I’ll craft my own scorpion harness, thankyouverymuch) - $5.5M (yeah, $1M looks kinda dinky in comparison)
2. Evasion Torque – I loves me the soloing, but not really helpful in an xp party. - $500K (and rising)
3. Hoplite’s Harpe – Most likely the last main-hand dagger I’d ever buy. If I upgrade it, it’ll be to a harpe/perseus’ harpe, but those won’t be purchased. - $1M

My real question is: The harpe seems to be holding reasonably steady at $1M right now, but in this economy, I can blink and it’ll be 1.5 in 2 weeks…Do you think it is wise to spend the cash now, even though I couldn’t use it for another 100k xp (500 mobs x 200 xp apiece *shudder*), or should I get the torque now and scrounge up another 500k in the hopes that the price hasn’t taken off. Unless I pick up a harpe from Citipati (heh, not likely), this will be the last (mainhand) dagger I ever have to buy.

Has the harpe been getting more expensive, or less on other servers? To anyone that has it – is it as badass as its stats would indicate? {Help me out here!}

[Elsurion]

The Harpe drop of Citipati (Level: 80) is on levi around 5Mio. It's a very hard drop.... I know some ppls they farm that mob, and it's a bitch to pop... around 2 to 6hrs repop and you have to kill the placeholder Corse

[DelennFFXI]

Just FYI:

• I purchased Behemoth's Knife for 800k.
  Managed to get it a while ago through a /shouted trade. It's apparently very hard to get a hold of. I chose it over Hoplite's for the atk+8. The dmg+2 from Hoplite's would help for normal attacks / farming, but I don't think it'll touch the attack bonus for SATA. Also, Hoplite's was 2 million and dropping.
  
• I still don't have a Scorpion Harness.
  It's definitely near the end of my shopping list, since the bonuses aren't worth the 5 million price tag on CaitSith. Instead, I spent 2.25 million on spectacles(acc+7) ~_~
  
• I don't have an evasion torque (yet)
  I'm not a big soloer, but it might be a good investment. It's 800k+ last time I checked, and rising steadily.

Hope that helps somehow

[Ixaera]

My 2 gil --
If you solo, choose the eva torque or hoplites dagger -- either of these will improve that aspect of your thief-play.

My honest opinion about the scorpion harness =
I really want one. Really really really badly. I have not even 2 mil, so it's not happening soon.

But, it's not because it's an uber item (it's really not...I mean, you can get better evasion out of an aketon +1...agi and the +eva on that is really more valuable for dodging...and +10 acc is HARDLY worth 5-7 mil). I want it because I got an optical hat and it looks really stupid with an assault jerkin.

So, if you don't solo that much -- go with hoplites or maybe behemoth knife (though, honestly, attack rocks ... but it's useless if you hit your cap on a mob, like while farming... hoplites is useful for *all* situations at least).

If you do...I really like my evasion torque.

[guyincorporated]

As an epilogue to my little story, after I posted this, I made up my mind to get the hoplite's harpe. this was at about 3pm. I didn't get home until 1am, and I had this sinking feeling in my stomach all afternoon that I would blink and suddenly the price would jump up 200k or something. (nevermind that the price history had been steady at 1 mil.)

So I get home and the 1 that was on sale is now sold. Price: $1,400,000. Someone (I'm going to call him Bob) paid 40% more than the price of all the rest. Oh I was pissed.

So I check the next night, and another Harpe has sold, TO BOB AGAIN, for $1,500,000! He's freaking dual-wielding harpes!! GAH!!

So at that point I'm disgusted with the game. I don't log on for a day or two. I come back, and lo and behold, suddenly everyone's got harpes to sell now that they've increased in value by 50% in 2 days.

So I start bidding. No luck at $1M. Or $1.1M or $1.2. Finally, with the last of my cash, I got it for 1.25 mil. And the kicker...BOB was the guy who sold it to me!!

HE SOLD IT AT A $275,000 gil loss after AH listing fees, Just TWO days after buying the damn thing!

I have 15k right now. I haven't been this poor since I got my subjob. SO yeah, don't think I'll be getting my scorpion harness any time soon.

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P.S., There is a really cool side-benefit to having a level 68 harpe...

I've got something tangible to look forward to for a long time now.

Level 65: Shiva's Claws/Evasion torque
Level 66: Level 3 skillchains
Level 67: Assault Jerkin
Level 68: Hoplite's Harpe ^.^
Level 70: Warcry and War Gloves

Pretty nifty.

[Novac]

Don't forget war beret. It's poorman's optical hat!

Kinda.....

SH is over priced. But hey, every other JP thieves have them. So I want one, and got on.

[Damagecase]

Ressurecting this thread so I don't have to start a new one, and it has to do with the original topic....so here goes!

I also just turned 65 with thf, and I was wondering if it was worth it to get a Stun knife +1. Right now I weilding a Cermet Kukri+1 and Garuda's Dagger. Would it be worth it to sacrifice 1 DMG and ~7 delay for the chance to Stun the mob? Or should I keep the Cermet and hold off until 68 for the Harpe?

[guyincorporated]

I'm of the opinion that nothing is worth sacrificing a point of damage on your main-hand weapon.

p.s., got my evasion torque the other day, too. kinda fun having +41 evasion.

[DelennFFXI]

Originally posted by guyincorporated
p.s., got my evasion torque the other day, too. kinda fun having +41 evasion.

I got my evasion torque a few days ago myself, and I must say it's quite nice, especially with evasion capped at 251 right now. (*'.')b

It also jumped from 900k to 1.2 million after I bought it :sweat:

Note:
By +41 evasion, you didn't mean evasion skill did you? The torque increases evasion skill by +7, which is different and helps a lot more than say Emperor's Hairpin (evasion +10).

[guyincorporated]

Originally posted by DelennFFXI

Note:
By +41 evasion, you didn't mean evasion skill did you? The torque increases evasion skill by +7, which is different and helps a lot more than say Emperor's Hairpin (evasion +10).

True, although I don't know how *much* better "evasion skill" is vs "evasion", so I just called it 41 with an asterisk.

I've heard that the evasion skill bonus is much better, but it does seem somewhat counter-intuitive, considering that most other derived stats (ie., attack vs str, acc vs dex) are more directly affected by modifying the derived stat (acc) instead of the main stat (dex). Maybe skills work differently that main stats, or maybe evasion is just different. All i know is a DC only hit me once in a fight (/war) and I couldn't stop grinning.

[SAVAGE]

I am a 66 thief, i have scorp harness, Harpe, and all other basic thief gear, snipers leapin emp amemit+1.

I was kinda pist, i buy hoplites harpe one day, only to later that day kill citipati with 2 friends and get a reg harpe, still havent sold my hoplites and its dropp 300k from what i payed /sigh, dont buy gear till u can use it or right before.

Scorp harnes and snipers wi ould never wear anything else, they help so much. My next goal is peacock charm, its 12 mil atm and im 2 mil away from it, unless it goes up again ; ;.

[ibroyles]

Sorry to go off on a tangent here, but do people on your server still even camp Argus to sell Peacock Charm? I haven't seen one up on Titan in over a month(since the AH tax increase if I remember right). It seems the camp is dead most of the time now and I'm guessing when people do camp it they are looking to get it for themselves. Maybe Midgardsormr just has some hardcore Argus campers or something?

[guyincorporated]

Originally posted by SAVAGE
I was kinda pist, i buy hoplites harpe one day, only to later that day kill citipati with 2 friends and get a reg harpe, still havent sold my hoplites and its dropp 300k from what i payed /sigh, dont buy gear till u can use it or right before.

...Wait, prices can go DOWN on expensive items? I'm confused...


Oh, and to redirect it onto the proper tangent, I find myself in possession of another million or so gil and I'm once again torn. This time between amemit +1, or a viking shield. both 1 mil. I think amemit is the right choice as it is a permanent 5 extra attack, whereas the viking is 6 extra attack, but only when I'm not subbing ninja. It seems clear that amemit is superior, however the viking shield has gone up like mad lately, so it does seem like the wiser investment.

[Ixaera]

I'd go with the amemit +1
You also get +1 str, and the knowledge that eventually you'll have one mil again, and possibly between now and then you'll get lucky with a ram. :D

[Fire]

Bat cape! (Sold mine like a tool; ; Will buy another one when I can afford it and still keep my gils saved for speed belt :E)

And why are you guys paying 900k and stuff for a evasion torque!?! It's from a extremely easy BC60 in sacrifical chamber. :E Damn would farm that shit if i was on your server.