I put NIN and WAR both through these levels, and I played secondary and primary tank during those levels. Controlling my party to help the thief was pretty easy as NIN and WAR.
Nowadays as a THF it is becoming increasingly difficult to find people that are willing to help me do my best in damage, often I find myself missing SATA when I don't communicate.
When I DO communicate, the party says the following
"Quit changing party dynamics, we were doing fine before you showed up"
"Why are you such an asshole Assarai? Just let people play."
Should I tolerate parties that let me not contribute as much as I possibly can? If the party is led by say... a drg/drk who swears he will never sub war, should I just leave that party immediately? Should I shoot for the ideal party or settle for letting my damage be subpar?
Second, should I SATA as much as possible or try to time my SATA with my TP for renkei, sometimes I do SATA at the beginning then by the time it refreshes, the monster is almost dead. The other problem is if I try to time SATA where I do it before I pull, the party members don't seem to align themselves within... 5 seconds. I think it's perfectly reasonable time limit, I followed it myself when I was primary tank or trick set upper.
Really, I try to break these newbie party habits and they fight back ferociously, unwilling to see the truth. One pld flat out ignored me before I was able to finish explaining what SATA does.
Am I out of the ordinary? Should I try to empathize with ignorance or should it be not tolerated?
To get from 32 to 33, our blm had to position himself from the ninja that didn't want to move, so I could SATA on the ninja who I knew didn't like to tank, but I SATA on her anyway. And she's a rank 7 67+ whm and blm. She should know better, right?
Nowadays as a THF it is becoming increasingly difficult to find people that are willing to help me do my best in damage, often I find myself missing SATA when I don't communicate.
When I DO communicate, the party says the following
"Quit changing party dynamics, we were doing fine before you showed up"
"Why are you such an asshole Assarai? Just let people play."
Should I tolerate parties that let me not contribute as much as I possibly can? If the party is led by say... a drg/drk who swears he will never sub war, should I just leave that party immediately? Should I shoot for the ideal party or settle for letting my damage be subpar?
Second, should I SATA as much as possible or try to time my SATA with my TP for renkei, sometimes I do SATA at the beginning then by the time it refreshes, the monster is almost dead. The other problem is if I try to time SATA where I do it before I pull, the party members don't seem to align themselves within... 5 seconds. I think it's perfectly reasonable time limit, I followed it myself when I was primary tank or trick set upper.
Really, I try to break these newbie party habits and they fight back ferociously, unwilling to see the truth. One pld flat out ignored me before I was able to finish explaining what SATA does.
Am I out of the ordinary? Should I try to empathize with ignorance or should it be not tolerated?
To get from 32 to 33, our blm had to position himself from the ninja that didn't want to move, so I could SATA on the ninja who I knew didn't like to tank, but I SATA on her anyway. And she's a rank 7 67+ whm and blm. She should know better, right?
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