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Re: Stop telling SMN's what to do
Just because thats the way the job is currently used does not mean that is the correct way to play the job. The developers never invisioned summoners trying to take on the role of whitemages in most situations. I think also that if you don't have bst, pup, or drg at 75, you're not going to have much of an idea what summoner is about. I really don't considr it a mage job so much as it is a pet job, which is already a classification SE uses when they seperate the jobs. Jobs with pets are a whole different category than any other for them. They have been encouraging avatars to be summoned for longer periods of time and use of the avatar tp gaining system.
For instance when playing drg any mage job you sub will make your wyvern into a healing type. whm,blm,rdm, and blu are included in this category. Any pet job you sub will make your wyvern an attack type wyvern (smn,bst,pup, and drg/nosub). DD sub will do the same type of attack wyvern, and hybrid jobs like nin,pld,drk will make you're wyvern a hybrid type as well.
Summoner is not used for damage only because players do not understand how a pet job works, and that the longer the pet is out, the better it is for everyone. The new bloodpacts are there to encourage a style of play where you chose the appropriate avatar and can leave that avatar out for a longer period of time and multiple uses. You could use predator claws on an hnm, leave garuda out for TP, then burst the next light skillchain with windblade or heal the group with a TP'd up Whispering wind. Thats what SE has in mind as far as summoner taking more practical advantage of its pet instead of just using bloodpacts as if they are spells, which they're not. They are a bonus you get for the use of your pet, which is why they plan to have buffs soon effected by summoning skill and possible TP.
I have been playing this job since it was started and i saw it degrade into the state of being a third rate healer. There were really no avatars besides carbuncle back then and no -perpetuation gear which they have added a lot of since then. An average 75 summoner with merits in spirit perpetuation can have both spirits and avatars at 9mp/tick without refresh, and with relic that can be reduced as low as 3mp/tick no refresh. I have had free leviathan in Caedarva mire before and gained mp back with evoker's roll and had him out for about 8 fights before i had to rest. With the amount of -perpetuation, +smn skill, and refresh avaiable in the game today, the only thing stopping summoner from being played as a pet class purely is the playerbase itself.
Excuse me but it IS a summoners job to main heal till the late 60's -75 when they actually get decent damaging BP's. You say SMN has alot of power, when infact the avatars melee for hardly anything, and do the damage of a BLM spell once every minute. if we wanted a gimp BLM, we'd get a RDM. :3 SMN get a VERY large MP pool which is why when subbing WHM, they ARE main healer, there is no arguing against it and I'm telling you this from years of experience. Just because someone's SMN isn't higher then yours, the likely hood is, they have other jobs at 75 and KNOW WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT. Don't be a stubbern SMN that gives other SMN's a bad name, instead be FLEXIBLE.
For instance when playing drg any mage job you sub will make your wyvern into a healing type. whm,blm,rdm, and blu are included in this category. Any pet job you sub will make your wyvern an attack type wyvern (smn,bst,pup, and drg/nosub). DD sub will do the same type of attack wyvern, and hybrid jobs like nin,pld,drk will make you're wyvern a hybrid type as well.
Summoner is not used for damage only because players do not understand how a pet job works, and that the longer the pet is out, the better it is for everyone. The new bloodpacts are there to encourage a style of play where you chose the appropriate avatar and can leave that avatar out for a longer period of time and multiple uses. You could use predator claws on an hnm, leave garuda out for TP, then burst the next light skillchain with windblade or heal the group with a TP'd up Whispering wind. Thats what SE has in mind as far as summoner taking more practical advantage of its pet instead of just using bloodpacts as if they are spells, which they're not. They are a bonus you get for the use of your pet, which is why they plan to have buffs soon effected by summoning skill and possible TP.
I have been playing this job since it was started and i saw it degrade into the state of being a third rate healer. There were really no avatars besides carbuncle back then and no -perpetuation gear which they have added a lot of since then. An average 75 summoner with merits in spirit perpetuation can have both spirits and avatars at 9mp/tick without refresh, and with relic that can be reduced as low as 3mp/tick no refresh. I have had free leviathan in Caedarva mire before and gained mp back with evoker's roll and had him out for about 8 fights before i had to rest. With the amount of -perpetuation, +smn skill, and refresh avaiable in the game today, the only thing stopping summoner from being played as a pet class purely is the playerbase itself.
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