Summoners Wanted In Pt's?

[Darkhound]

Re: Summoners Wanted In Pt's?

Exactly!!! Garuda seems very very effective against Jourmungand! But for better results, it is recommended that you have merits on accuracy and physical damage!

[Tif]

Re: Summoners Wanted In Pt's?

I'm still toying with how I'm going to finish summoner specific merits. I got sick of my 2 hour getting resisted the few times when I needed it so I did put one each into magic accuracy and attack. I also like the very slight increase in damage from nether blast.

I'm still unsure if I'm going to leave those be or move them over to physical though. I may do 4 on physical acc, 4 on physical attack, remove the one from magic accuracy and put it into magic attack.

[Darkhound]

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Well, i am capped on physical accuracy and physical damage so im done there! I have liked the results so far?

[Tirrock]

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imo i would never use Garuda Leviation is more better on most the gods.

Gods? Yes, leviathan is more useful.

although I'd still use garuda most of the time on wyrms

Wyrms? No, not really. I personally count Faf/Nid as a ground god, so leviathan there. Against wyrms, garuda was quite accurate for me (1 accuracy merit, AF2 hands), and I broke 1000 damage multiple times a fight. The only time I'd try diabolos against wyrms is if I were trying to get two blood pacts in while he was resting. That way if it decides to take to the sky I don't lose 164MP (plus perpetuation costs, summoning costs, and the MP I could have gotten from resting).

I used leviathan primarly on my first wyrm fight, but noticed the garuda's consistantly outdamaging me, so I switched to garuda. I expected her accuracy to suck against wyrms, but it doesn't. I'd go as far as to say I had more crits than I had misses (not counting times when he'd take to the sky).

[Darkhound]

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What is your average damage on genbu, suzaku etc. with leviathan?

[Tirrock]

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Don't remember. Other than ollas, I haven't touched an NM in sky for about 8 months. I'm sure I have screenshots of my damage on them somewhere. I was screenshot happy...I had 2GB of jpg screenshots before I put them on a DVD and deleted them off my hard drive.

Genbu I remember sucking. Bad. Like 250-300 damage or something. The rest I didn't really pay attention to.

[Darkhound]

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Yeah.... thatis what I had in mind, pretty lame damage, hope that gets fixed, they need to make summoners more useful in sky, do you agree?

[Tirrock]

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We're quite useful on sky farming...on the gods themselves....eh... I'm just thankful that spinning dive doesn't need sneak attack to hit the majority of the time.

SMN pretty much shine on endurance HNM fights. Wyrms, KB, Fluffy the punctuality-challenged wyvern (fafnir/nidhogg), kirin too. That's pretty much how I picked what job I'd go to as HNM (assuming we had plenty of both WHM and SMN, so I had a choice which to go as).

And despite how annoying it was...SMN were good on kited NMs (which were generally what I'd consider an "endurance" fight anyway) even before diabolos, because we could still do damage while it was being kited. Where melees had to wait for it to use a WS so they could get a few shots in... Then wait for it to stop for a prolonged period of time so they can skillchain.

I don't think SMN are meant to be the ultimate job that is incredibly useful in every single situation. Everybody would level SMN if it was - it'd be the next RNG...only easily 1/20th the cost and more annoying to level most of the time.

[Darkhound]

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Very, very good points. I like the job itself, I just would like to see some changes that would help us improve our participation in certain activities. I know the wyrm thing, my LS has killed, jourmungand, fafnir etc but those activities are not that frequent given the competition for those mobs. That is one of the main reasons I took black mage up, so that I can extend my level of participation on more events!