Summoners Wanted In Pt's?

[Shirai]

Re: Summoners Wanted In Pt's?

You must complete all promys Minus Vahzl which is PM5-2(oneim on know ) 3-5 is a lvl 40 CApped Diabolos fight but must farm a chip first Cant remember names.

Yes indeed, before you can fight him you must have finished all 3 Promyvions, Phomiuna Aquaducts, the dreaded Riverne site #A01 and then Diabolos himself in a lvl 40 cap mission.For that mission you'll only need to farm one chip tho.
And they're pretty easy to obtain in the uncapped Pso-Xja

Once you finish 3-5 and enter chapter 4 of CoP you can fight the Prime version of Diabolos.
Even if you do fight him in the same arena, the uncapped battle is a lot harder to win with a regular partysetup.

[Galaxia]

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What kinda lvl would be good for a SMN to go to the Prime Version? Also what lvl will I start needing Diablos?
And whats a Chip?

[Darkhound]

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A chip is an item that drops from spiders and lizzards in Pso'xja. To get in there you must zone in one of the towers of Beaucedine Glacier. Speak to the tenshodo in jeuno to get the quest, and then I think you need to speak to the taru that we summoners know.... Un fortunatley I cant access many websites here at work, so i will try to give you more into on whta npcs and the rest etc.

[Galaxia]

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Thanks ^^
that would be great ^^

[Kazuki]

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As a SMN in a Diabolos fight, all I could do was pull him to the middle of the arena so the BLMs could go crazy. Diabolos isn't a requirement for most things, but you're really going to wish you had him in a lot of situations where you don't have him. Noctoshield + Shining Ruby on a PLD in exp parties and sometimes God fights does wonders. Depending on the hour, Dream Shroud's Magic Atk Bonus can do a lot for the BLMs too (when you're playing support/healing in exp.)

The best thing about Diabolos though is Nether Blast, which is your ticket to endgame at 65. This BP is just amazing. It almost never gets resisted. It's also ranged so you can hit mobs that are being kited (i.e. Kirin).

You can get by without Diabolos, but he's definitely more than just a luxury.

[Darkhound]

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Kazuki... quick question....

What program do you use to make those signatures... i mean... to get the avatars... and the wings etc.... regulra model viewer?

[IBHalliwell]

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As for Diabolos, no he's not required even at level 75. Fenrir is a different story. You'll need to get him in your 60s (earlier is better).

IBHalliwell


Is Wrong if u plan on being anyhelp in HMNLS Diabolos is required on all gods cuz Nether Blast is Unresisted and Ranged.. so if u fight for say Kirin which is kited u need Diabolos or gonna get a BP off every 3min or so

But as me on 75SMN my BP is at 45Sec with just hat AF2Gloves and YY so rather have a BP hit every 45sec than everyother..

just imo

Thanks for the info. I don't belong to a HNMLS nor have I had the opportunity to go after gods.

IB

[Tirrock]

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Is Wrong if u plan on being anyhelp in HMNLS Diabolos is required on all gods cuz Nether Blast is Unresisted and Ranged.. so if u fight for say Kirin which is kited u need Diabolos or gonna get a BP off every 3min or so

If you absolutely need diabolos to land blood pacts on kited HNM, you need help. Yeah...he's easier, but a good SMN on kirin did as much or more damage than a monk chi blasting (minus a bard using soul voice etudes on the MNK) before CoP was even out.

Fenrir seems to get the most use after level 54. Ecliptic Howl is pretty handy, especially during the right moon phases with a bard that's smart enough not to use madrigal while you're already boosting the party's accuracy by a similar amount. (Which were unfortunately few and far between when I was leveling SMN.) Eclipse Bite is good...but I never was impressed with it's damage on ITs in the 60's.

As for Galaxia's CoP questions:
http://promathia.runtimerepairs.com/

[Galaxia]

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Thanks ^^ reading it now

[Kazuki]

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Kazuki... quick question....

What program do you use to make those signatures... i mean... to get the avatars... and the wings etc.... regulra model viewer?

I use Model Viewer and Photoshop mainly, but I've started using 3D studio max and metasequoia to help render the models a lot better.

If you absolutely need diabolos to land blood pacts on kited HNM, you need help. Yeah...he's easier, but a good SMN on kirin did as much or more damage than a monk chi blasting (minus a bard using soul voice etudes on the MNK) before CoP was even out.

I agree... to a point. Kirin likes to stop a lot for TP moves and spells, giving us SMNs enough chances to land any BP, but I think Nether Blast gives you a little slack here too. If you get into position a little late, you might miss a normal, physical BP because Kirin is so fast, but Nether Blast would probably still hit.

Not to mention, you have like 0 chance of resistance with that, whereas physical BPs can completely miss or do crap damage sometimes. Also, other HNMs, like Tiamat increase Diabolos's usefulness. When she flies, you can still land Nether Blast which is good, despite its damage being halved.

[Palom_FF]

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I agree... to a point. Kirin likes to stop a lot for TP moves and spells, giving us SMNs enough chances to land any BP, but I think Nether Blast gives you a little slack here too. If you get into position a little late, you might miss a normal, physical BP because Kirin is so fast, but Nether Blast would probably still hit.

The trick with landing blood pacts on kited mobs, that a lot of SMN don't pay attention to, is not using Assault. That way, you can run ahead of the mob and ready the blood pact while it comes to you. However, over the course of an hour-long Kirin battle, I would still end up missing about 4-5 Spinning Dives, compared to maybe 0-1 Nether Blast. All-in-all, Diabolos' damage is more consistent than Leviathan on Kirin (a solid 519 or whatever every time with Nether Blast, where Spinning Dive would range from 250-800, with 400 being on average and about 3-4 misses), and it seems to me to outdamage Leviathan during the course of the entire fight.

[Tirrock]

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The trick with landing blood pacts on kited mobs, that a lot of SMN don't pay attention to, is not using Assault.

Bingo! I noticed a lot of new to HNM SMN in my LS do that when they started. It made their "out or range" rate sky-rocket.

I was a bit too hard on my last post... Diabolos is a bit more than "easier" on Kirin (although I'd still use garuda most of the time on wyrms...not that I'm even fighting HNM lately). Even with my AF2 body, crits weren't common enough to matter on kirin. Although I didn't get very many 200's, I do know I got some.

The number of "out of range" messages I got per fight largely varied based on luck and lag. Sometimes somebody would pull hate on kirin at a bad time and throw off a blood pact. Sometimes lag. Sometimes me being totally out of practice from long breaks from the game and/or HNM. Assuming no major lag problems I probably had about 3 out of range errors per kirin, while being in the alliance most of the time.

Totally off-topic tangent:
I remember a kirin where suddenly everybody in the zone was hit with massive lag. Kirin went from like 10% HP to 100% over time, we couldn't hit him because he kept teleporting all over...BLMs couldn't even get most nukes off. Then people started watching us fight the teleport-hacking kirin, making the lag even worse. After about an hour of lagging it went away on it's own and we won. That was one of the silliest fights ever.

[pyromaniac]

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(although I'd still use garuda most of the time on wyrms...not that I'm even
fighting HNM lately)

imo i would never use Garuda Leviation is more better on most the gods.

[Darkhound]

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Welll, I have used garuda much more lately, and with my accuracy capped on merits, Garuda seems to be a better option for me... I will still do some testing

[Tif]

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While levi seems better on gods, claws seemed to be better against jormy. I think it really depends on what you are fighting and what they are weak to for what bloodpact you choose. Blast is great for when they fly though, so you can keep the damage going. I think that's what I love about this job, we can adapt to any situation when the fight changes.