Summoning Magic Skill

[kuu]

Re: Summoning Magic Skill

I'm sorry if I explain bad or something but you don't seem to get what I mean.

What I mean is that in terms of time you will get higher Summoning Magic is less time if you level up than if you keep summoning over and over simply because if you are a few levels below it level up much faster. I agree that you want to be most efficient for your level but at my level you get about one Summoning level each hour. To get 10 Summoning Magic skills it would require 10 hours. Why not just spend 30mins farming 20k and buy a torque giving 10 to summoning magic skill? Items giving to Summoning Magic is very cheap for a reason. No one have ever seen any noticable difference when it comes to abilities. Let's say each skill add 10hp to the avatars max hp. So what? My avatars never reach zero hp anyway unless I solo and solo isnt fun unless your lvl 70+ and by that time your Summoning Magic have almost reached up to your level anyway.

I havent leveled my Summoning Magic since I was level 30 and people do not care about that. They care about wherther I got Fenrir, wherther I got Light and Dark staff, wherther I got Evokers Ring and so on. And I do, when it comes to items I do have really good equipments, I definetly do not think of myself as gimp I think of myself as a åretty good Summoner compared to others my own level.

The Armor example you give is very different. It's more like I'm not getting any avatars until level 75 because then I can solo them. I mean I play melee jobs aswell, ofcourse I keep my armors up to date but seriously there hasn't been a single party and i'm talking during my whole FFXI experience. There hasnt been One single party judging any Summoner I know from their Summoning Magic level.

The only time I have been asked my level is when other Summoners wants to compare themself to me and then the differences arent much at all since no one level it at these levels, atleast not on Quetzalcoatle. It's not about being lazy, it's about being effective. If you level instead you get more result in less time and without knowing it your Summoning Magic is capped aswell without any special time spent in it.

As they say ignorance is bliss. This is why we do tests and try to find logical answers instead of "feelings" and "I heards".

I really laugh if people think fenrir is important, to get one smn over another. Sure the doggie has it's uses, but rarely do I have used it on all levels of xp.

The only time I have thought to excusively rely on fenrir are spiders, to lower their evasion, and that was with 4 DDs.

I find Shiva many times more important, to me as a smn, and titan. Ignorance is bliss, and the "they never asked for my smn skill" is not really any indication.

[SlizenDize]

Re: Summoning Magic Skill

It's an indication saying you do not have to level summoning magic to get party invites.
I find Fenrir most important soloing and during skill-up parties (accuracy) he was also nice during 65-70 if using eclipse bite right after berserking Dhamel. However other then that I agree that he is not that useful during parties. But as I said in the post before that one I said something like "It doesnt matter what Summoning Magic do because it doesnt do anything noticeable anyway" if you want to test it anyway it's cool but I've seen people test before and there are too many factors making this virtually impossible to check. Square-Enix is known for complaicated methods so chances are there are hidden stats for Avatars which we do not know about which is a major fact into how they work.

[Medalink]

Re: Summoning Magic Skill

Well this thread has gotton way off topic and became a "I think" thread where everyons voiceing there opinions. I for one will not be posting my results on here anymore.

To Icemage
Thanks for at least saying you dont know much about it, your about the only one that did not speculate or say "I think" and exspress your opinions. You stated what you knew.

For allmost everyone else I dont care what you "think", I dont care what you have now tested and posted, I could care less anymore due to the fact you couldent even stay on topic.

I asked:

"So if anyone could shed some light on what it does." (Refering to Summoning Magic Skill)

And all you have argued is if it does anything at all or not. Not what it does. It does something as it would not be there if it did not. So all who say its not important fuck yourself and have fun doing so.

Thanks for ruining my thread. This will be my last post on the issue for a while. Be my guest and keep argueing about whos wrong when you should look into the mirror and say he/she is!

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[geno3302]

Re: Summoning Magic Skill

I didnt read all the posts, but this is what summoning skill does for sure;
It directly ties into, and plays a massive role, in Blood pact damge.
I proved this (atleast for me) by using the same BP on the same mobs in rollan berry, i was a lv 51 SMN and the other summoner was lv 75 but his summoning skill was about 10-15 above mine. We used the same BPs and he only did 100-150 more DMG then me. I then asked a lv 75 SMN with SMN skill @cap to use the same BPs, and he was doing 300-500 more dmg then me.

As far as i remember their avatars did the same dmg melee wise, and i cant say anything about acc.

Sum it up: Summoning Magic skill= Damge with Blood Pacts