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  • #16
    but if you think about it most of the spells are taken (albiet horribly) but the current avatars. It would be really nice if enhancements would last longer, like Fenrir which has the only offensive enhancements that last long enough to really do anything. Summoners were really horribly done if you think about it. Though they do very nice damage to HNMs when all other dmg magic/physical is all resisted.
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    • #17
      I don't belive there will be more avatars, nor new spells for us BLM, despise that "--but I seen a homepage with all thoses movies of flarega5 and ultimabombfreezagaodin--"

      Adding a Non-element avatar or even spirit.. yea.. a nice low cost spirit that DO something would be nice. They could do that for blm too.. a non elemental nuke would realy help on HNM fights

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      • #18
        Originally posted by irecinius
        a non elemental nuke would realy help on HNM fights
        the call that melee...

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        • #19
          I like the idea of lvl2 Avatars, but I think if they were to add a non elemental Avatar that Avatar would be Bahamut. Bahamut has always (or almost always) been stronger than the Elemental Avatars while not having a specific Element.

          I haven't read anything saying there would be new avatars though
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          • #20
            Well if many of the original summons are bad, they could make a level two as someone else said, it makes sense.
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            • #21
              Thing that surprised me is someone saying Bahamut's element was taken o.O

              Last I remember Bahamut, Neobahamut, and what's that last one Zeobahamut(?) all were non-elemental so what non-elemental summon took bahamut's place? :confused:

              As for non-elemental spell I do recall that Ultima use to be non-elmental but I think somewere in the last FF it showed up on it was given dark element? Don't remember I'll have to review my previous FFs I guess.


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              • #22
                I really like the idea of the lvl 2 and lvl 3 avatars, I think that would be a great way to expand them while keeping with the games "philosophy."

                Personally I'd like to see some method where you *can't* get (or have access to) all the avatars at once -- or make getting them contingent on something else really difficult. I think having nation specific avatars would be one good way to do this, or maybe having to be rank10 in a nation to get a really high level avatar could work. Race specific avatars would be nifty, but since you can never change your race, I don't feel that's particularlly fair.

                Since most of the buffing abilities are already taken care of, I'd envision the lvl 2 avatars as more damage oriented, being fesable to use during exp groups, or for soloing/farming. If they had no other crazy abilities, I don't think they'd be too unbalanced.

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                • #23
                  i think that if they make 3 lvls of summons, that they would count the elementals as lvl 1, the current avatars as lvl 2, and i like the idea that someone had about only have 4 lvl 3's but making them dual elemental. right now, _not tryign to make any summoners mad_ but i think that bahamut wont be an avatar, he seems more like a story character from the so far released info.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by fate_of_fantasy
                    i think that if they make 3 lvls of summons, that they would count the elementals as lvl 1, the current avatars as lvl 2, and i like the idea that someone had about only have 4 lvl 3's but making them dual elemental. right now, _not tryign to make any summoners mad_ but i think that bahamut wont be an avatar, he seems more like a story character from the so far released info.
                    Just keep in mind the date that all that was posted, it was before the new info from CoP. Peoples view on the possibilities would certainly change now from then and it's already known possibility now that bahamut might not be an actual summons.


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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by fate_of_fantasy
                      _not tryign to make any summoners mad_ but i think that bahamut wont be an avatar, he seems more like a story character from the so far released info.
                      as was the deal with fenrir when we first saw him
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Aurege
                        as was the deal with fenrir when we first saw him
                        If you watch the new video posted on www.playonline.com it's basically points to Bahamut 100% not being a summonable avatar.
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                        • #27
                          All in all I think there is some very cool ideas I like the whole idea of the lvl or "stage" 2 summons and I really like the idea of having them at different lvls considering if u base it upon lvl 75 most smners will have all the current ones. so one at a time would be a good way of doing it.

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                          • #28
                            You cant own the king of dragons...that just plain crazy!~!!



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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by xarddrax
                              You cant own the king of dragons...that just plain crazy!~!!

                              Here, look at the monkey...
                              oooo. monkey distracted me for atleast 5 seconds.
                              anyway, i currently have the queen of winter, the queen of avians, the legendary giant that holds vanad'iel in his arms, the ruler of the waves and water,ect. What makes the king of wyrms any differant? (all of those quotes were taken from the pol site
                              )
                              Originally posted by Manatra
                              If you watch the new video posted on www.playonline.com it's basically points to Bahamut 100% not being a summonable avatar.
                              you just contradict yourself with that video
                              take a look at the GIANT PURPLE PROTOCRYSTAL
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                              • #30
                                Hmm maybe get a screesnhot? nothing in there looked like a protocrystal to me really.
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