SMN leveling w/ Carby mittons at 23~24

[fyrewyre]

So lets say i decide to run around with oh say.. Titan, how much would the cost be at level30? i havent noticed any new jumps in the avitar cost department as of late but i would like to walk around with a bodyguard >_> Since my highest job is only 53, how can i possibly get my hands on carb's mittons? im pretty sure those tonberrys would have their way with me if i get lost in kazham.

[Oompa]

I got my mittens last week. Love them to death. With mitts and light staff, at level 60 SMN, Carbuncle is totally free. Granted I don't get auto-refresh, but still, it's an awesome feature to have, and great for farming. He helped me get my staff skill up by 7 points in the last few days. Bravo carbie!

[Kiyone]

Originally posted by Spellbinder
Still looks like it could be half to me since you're still including Auto-Refresh. Without it, the perpetuation cost would be 7 instead of 6, half of which is 3.5. The mitts might just round up to 4 resulting in 3 mp/tick yielding 2 mp/tick when Auto-Refresh is put into play.

I'm 64 now myself and the cost went up a notch to 8 mp/tick. With Auto-Refresh + mittens Carbuncle costs me 3 mp/tick and with my Apollo's Staff it's an even 0 as of now.

By the time I hit Lv 72, the cost will be 9, so that would make it 4.5 rounded up to 5 with my mittens, resulting in a cost of 4 mp/tick with Auto-Refresh, then when you add in my Apollo's Staff I end up with 1 mp/tick which could be rectified with an Evoker's Ring.

I dunno ^^ maybe I worded it wrong but it sounds right in my head.

Hmm... I never thought about it that way, but that is certainly a probability. Let me try something here.

I know with the right equipment, Carbuncle can be +1MP to keep out at 75, but that is with maximum gear. We are talking, Auto-Refresh, Carbuncle Mitts, Apollo Staff, Evoker's Ring, and a Refresh Cloak (Vermillion or Dalmatica, whichever you can get your hands on).

At level 75, Carbuncle costs a total of 9mp, you mentioned. So, leaving out Carbuncle Mitts,

-1 Auto Refresh
-3 Apollo Staff
-1 Evoker's Ring
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-5 Perpetuation

Hmm... Carbuncle's Mitts would still reduce perpetuation at -4, leaving the Refresh Cloak to give +1 MP...

Odd, i thought it would turn out to be -5 like you mentioned.

Well, if and when I get 72, I'll certainly try this out. Since I only have a Light Staff and not an Apollo's Staff, we can test what Carbuncle's Mitts really does.

It still seems that the gloves are -4 though. ^^


EDIT: Oh, I see the reason why the mitt's turned out to be -4 instead of -5.

There seems to be a calculation error:

"By the time I hit Lv 72, the cost will be 9, so that would make it 4.5 rounded up to 5 with my mittens, resulting in a cost of 4 mp/tick with Auto-Refresh, then when you add in my Apollo's Staff I end up with 1 mp/tick which could be rectified with an Evoker's Ring."

Auto-Refresh and Apollo's Staff should reduce cost by 4 total. With this setup, assuming that Carbuncle Mitts reduces by 5, then you would not need an Evoker's Ring.

I think if we examine the cost without the Carbuncle Mitts and then with them, we can determine how much it reduces. Perhaps trying with Auto-Refresh, Apollo's Staff and Evoker's Ring first, then adding the Mitts, then adding the Refresh Cloak. I add the cloak last because it's not actually a minus on perpetuation cost, it's a +1MP, so adding it before everything else will not help determine what is actually LOWERING the cost as opposed to the overall outcome.

I don't have the levels or equipment to further test this, though. So, if any level 72+ SMN could take a moment to maybe play around with the equip and test these theories out, it'd be appreciated. ^^

[Tomoh]

Carbuncle Mittons always rounds up. For Smn LV72~75, Carby perpetuation is -9. Mittons will take care of 5.