SMN/RDM..An alternative guide..My experiences.

[F.R.I.E.N.D.S]

oh
thanks alot
u cheered me up alot ^^
i'm just waiting my CashU to pay for my character.


Hi again lol
I see you guys using many shortcuts, i don't understand it
like :
AF, EM , BC , a spells , na spells , BP abilites
AND .. many more
Can Anyone lead me to any good thread that explain those Shortcuts ?
Thanks again and Have a nice day

[tazirai]

Originally posted by F.R.I.E.N.D.S
oh
thanks alot
u cheered me up alot ^^
i'm just waiting my CashU to pay for my character.


Hi again lol
I see you guys using many shortcuts, i don't understand it
like :
AF, EM , BC , a spells , na spells , BP abilites
AND .. many more
Can Anyone lead me to any good thread that explain those Shortcuts ?
Thanks again and Have a nice day

most of those shortcuts coem from previous ff games. you can get alot of info from the main topics , race& job sections, strictly ingame.
Well basically the whole website.

[F.R.I.E.N.D.S]

ok ^^
thanks alot
i appriciates ur efforts for replying
thanks again and bye :}

[Quinnzo]

Re: SMN/RDM..An alternative guide..My experiences.

You make a very good point about how SMN should be played as SMN, not as what your sub is, however i do have to agree with someones post a bit up, since SMN obviously plays a bit of there sub, the /RDM i dont think would work in the enfeeble point of view. In order to keep some respect for the value of the post, im going to admit that i have never played SMN/RDM (SMN73 RDM27) but i have experimented with the work of debuffs including blind sleep paralyze ect. using /BLM or /WHM in balista. Using the correct elemental staffs I can usually land maybe 1/5 on a level 75 character, and with mobs being higher levels then 75, and that sometimes people with RDMs as main can't stick enfeebles i just can't imagine this working. At levels like 10, subbing a job with enfeebles, you can usually stick just due to the closeness of level 5 and level 10, with the seperation that gets into the 70/35 area it obviously gets harder due to larger level gap. Obviously the majority of SMNs sub WHM because most people want us as main healers because of our massive MP pool without noticing the help the summoner itself has to offer. Honestly I dont care about the sub, i sub WHM because I had it leveled before hand. I sub BRD for avatar burns and soloing, its all based on what the party needs out of you. Since your almost usually bound to be called upon to throw out a cure here and there, WHM or RDM is the most common sense sub, in conclusion from my unusually un needed long post-just trying to state that i dont think the /RDM sub can efficentally stick enfeebles even with INT and elemental staff bonus', im not going against it as a sub in general

[tazirai]

Re: SMN/RDM..An alternative guide..My experiences.

This Guide is old and I alternate between rdm and whm SJ dependingon what we are facing and the PT makeup. I'll never fall intothe only one sj can be used train of thinking ><

[Alauna]

Re: SMN/RDM..An alternative guide..My experiences.

When you hit level 50 you can try to get 5 Summoners to assist in getting Fenrir for you, Your role will be to help with raises and -Na spells and perhaps a teleport-mea.

*buzz* wrong answer. It's very unlikely that a hired group of 70+ SMNs are just going to accept a R1 from a Lvl 50 whm for a Fenrir fight. -na's and Teleport-Mea, sure. (Re)raise II would be the least they would accept.

[_TrAkA_]

Re: SMN/RDM..An alternative guide..My experiences.

ok nice^^.

[Kalel]

Re: SMN/RDM..An alternative guide..My experiences.

Every member of Fenrir battles needs to be 70 including whm. Anyone below 70 is useless that includes whm if they only whm. Like mentioned above 70s will not except raise 1 it will hurt them. Its nice to help others but come on its like going to HNM battle with 20 lvls below lvl needed and you are basically making a fight tough already harder. Hey they are always nice people who might do crazy stuff to help others so you never know.

[tazirai]

Re: SMN/RDM..An alternative guide..My experiences.

I'm gonna unsticky this As the guide is REALLY old and many people are currently set about what A Summoner should be doing in the PT. Even though I agree with some of it , I dont with all of it, and In an effort to not spread bad ideas, Ill let this guide go down.

but to the players its really up to you to determine what is best for you in the particular situation. Just remeber that and have fun with the game and real life. Real Life >FFXI

[Darkhound]

Re: SMN/RDM..An alternative guide..My experiences.

A sad fact, I have a SMN/RDM firend that gets constantly FLAMED on my linkshell and server. While that guide you provide looks very good, I still think for the time being that /WHM is the best choice.

It still amazed me how old this guide is , and yet there is still people debating over it. AFter reading your guide, it really makes me think about soloing, but I have seen (sad fact) that smn is still overall seeing as a healer.

While we were doing cerberus, my other smn friend, who subs rdm... was lacking alot of -na spells and my ls was agian.. bashing him.