Summoner's Power!

[}PuPPeT^MaSTeR{]

What's with all the people dissing summoners? On my server I've seen some pretty strong summons. I'm here to defend their abilities, but sorry if they really do just totally suck lol.

I know most of you must have reason for the dissing of them, but what level have you seen summoners acheive? Has anyone seen a level 70 summoner?

I know I haven't, but I still think summoners are a high skilled job and would be a help to any party. Aside from their offensive capabilities, they have really good party abilities. People say those abilities aren't worth casting, but in the end, would a party rather have those abilities or not? I mean comin, mass Blinkage. :D

I imagine that eventually Square Enix will reduce the summoning cost for keeping avatars out, if not get ride of it all together.

One question I have is, does the weapon a summoner carries, determine how fast their avatar attacks? Someone said something about avatars attacking slow because the summoner used a two handed staff. Anyone know anything about that?

Also I have another question, how much damage can a summoner rank up? I've heard that high level summoners can even put Black Mages in their place. That was told by someone who had actaully seen a high level summoner.

Most people ignore posts, so please reply to this, I wanna know peoples input on these issues.

Also anyone have an example of an avatars astral flow damage?

[tomfin10]

Re: Summoner's Power!

Originally posted by }PuPPeT^MaSTeR{
One question I have is, does the weapon a summoner carries, determine how fast their avatar attacks? Someone said something about avatars attacking slow because the summoner used a two handed staff. Anyone know anything about that?

Your weapon shouldn't have anything to do with your summons... I'm not saying the SMN job sucks (I eventually am going to get it and make it my main), I'm just saying they're not all powerful with their attacks and DMGing abilities... the magic gets easily resisted and their black magic doesn't do as much as a BLM but their support abilities are good. And any little bit of DMG is helpful ^^. They just won't be as good as a regular WAR or BLM...

[Vaiyo]

From what I can gather, some of the biggest complaints about summoners are the fact that it's hard to get avatars beyond carbunkle. Carbunkle itself is not very impressive, and most summoners won't be able to get avatars until much later and higher in levels ... so the illusion seems to be summoners suck. But I'd imagine, without having played one nor seeing any high level summoners with more avatars in action, that they are more powerful than most people can imagine.

Or at least I hope so, because I want to go WHM/SMN and vice-versa someday

[Calianeri]

You should make sure to read Sheila's stickied thread about Summoners. It's extremely useful advice from someone who has played the job up to level 62. It will give you the real info on SMN.

SMN FAQ Thread

Also, using /SMN as a subjob is a very different thing than SMN main. The summons would be half your main job's level, so not really useful... It's almost exclusively used as an MP-booster for WHMs, not for actually calling summons. (Except maybe the party-blink Garuda has... there's a good WHM subjob thread with info on this.)

[}PuPPeT^MaSTeR{]

K, but does anyone have a damage count for me? No one ever said anything about damage a summon can do.

[Arconis]

Originally posted by }PuPPeT^MaSTeR{
K, but does anyone have a damage count for me? No one ever said anything about damage a summon can do.

Summoner Faq

This is stickied at the top of the page as well =)

[geno3302]

1000DMG AoE not sure what lv with Ifrit