3/10 patch changes to scholar

[Tomato_Kai]

Re: 3/10 patch changes to scholar

I just had this image in mind of a mithra buzzed on caffeine.


Funneh XD

[Luna]

Re: 3/10 patch changes to scholar

I just had this image in mind of a mithra buzzed on caffeine.


Funneh XD

you and your mithra's XD

(*'-') oh wait! I'm a mithra too :3

[Tomato_Kai]

Re: 3/10 patch changes to scholar

It's only an obsession if you have a shrine.

Or a support group.

[Vyuru]

Re: 3/10 patch changes to scholar

Were "lazy" RDM's, the ones who coasted through, living on refresh and convert.

Being a backline Rdm never implied only using Refresh and Convert you know....

[Tomato_Kai]

Re: 3/10 patch changes to scholar

Personally, I thought playing a backline role also meant using enfeebles, support healing, and other such boons to the class. In fact,

I thought it basically meant everything except running up and attacking with your weapon like an idiot. What do I know, though?

[MrMageo]

Re: 3/10 patch changes to scholar

I do know thats why i quoted the "lazy" o know of a large number of RDM's who preform well from the backline. This update is just going to thin the heard, remove the dead wait "Lazy" coasting RDM's from the true RDM's. I thank you SCH

[Saren]

Re: 3/10 patch changes to scholar

No ones posted about this so couple of random little things.

At the moment whm75/37sch, two charges time to regain 1 charge 1 minute instead of two so small error there I think based on the update notes.

To be expected seeing as how rdm refresh doesn't stack with sublimation but confirming that juice doesn't stack with it either.

[Truece]

Re: 3/10 patch changes to scholar

I guess I just don't quite understand the logic behind not allowing Refresh to be cast on someone with Sublimation active, while Evoker's Roll and Ballads will work. I find it curious that SE singled out the one spell over the others. It would have made more sense to me to have the ability stop all 3.

Also, while sublimation is GREAT, I don't think it's as effective as some people think it is. For instance, as a galka with over 1200 hp, I can get max 308 MP from Sublimation. However, in order to get that amount, I need to let Sublimation be active for over 7 minutes. It is nice that I can put stoneskin up and rest MP, if needed, but it isn't like anyone with access to sublimation can just activate the ability every 25 seconds and expect to get more than 16-20 MP back.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

Re: 3/10 patch changes to scholar

I guess I just don't quite understand the logic behind not allowing Refresh to be cast on someone with Sublimation active, while Evoker's Roll and Ballads will work. I find it curious that SE singled out the one spell over the others. It would have made more sense to me to have the ability stop all 3.

Also, while sublimation is GREAT, I don't think it's as effective as some people think it is. For instance, as a galka with over 1200 hp, I can get max 308 MP from Sublimation. However, in order to get that amount, I need to let Sublimation be active for over 7 minutes. It is nice that I can put stoneskin up and rest MP, if needed, but it isn't like anyone with access to sublimation can just activate the ability every 25 seconds and expect to get more than 16-20 MP back.

You're not looking at the bigger picture here, though.

Conserve MP, 10% off spells under thier respective Arts, B skill Aspir, Sublimation, a +hMP build and Clear Mind III.

Any form of refresh would be like giving ice to an eskimo at this point. They have a lot of ways to save MP and get it back.

Also, I don't get the witchhunt RDMs are firing up against BRD and CORs with SCH's update. We have a different kinds of refresh. Its not magical. No RDM out there furrowed thier brows when these jobs got merit traits that trump Refresh in total duration and power, Winning Streak especially. Hell, I can average 3 MP easy and raise it to 4 or 5 MP a tick. BRD can only two hour and use merit abilities to hope to compete with that.

Or have full relic horn, but I digress.

[Pteryx]

Re: 3/10 patch changes to scholar

Also, I don't get the witchhunt RDMs are firing up against BRD and CORs with SCH's update. We have a different kinds of refresh. Its not magical. No RDM out there furrowed thier brows when these jobs got merit traits that trump Refresh in total duration and power, Winning Streak especially. Hell, I can average 3 MP easy and raise it to 4 or 5 MP a tick. BRD can only two hour and use merit abilities to hope to compete with that.

Or have full relic horn, but I digress.

The thing is, none of the above prevent us from helping too. Sure, you're better at it, but we can still throw it that much further into overdrive. Why sweat something that still allows us to cooperate? Sublimation was a source of panic for us because it doesn't.

You do, however, make a good point that Refresh is still better than Sublimation much of the time. Hopefully that will be apparent enough that there won't be much conflict. I still worry that it's going to be a bumpy ride, though... -- Pteryx

[Celeal]

Re: 3/10 patch changes to scholar

Maybe because Refresh is White Magic, and Sublimation only effects White/Black Magic? So non-magic refresh like Ballad or Auto-Refresh stacks with Sublimation?

Does anyone try stack Juice with Sublimation?

[MrMageo]

Re: 3/10 patch changes to scholar

Thankfully im glad Refresh cant be cast on it. Will be a few months before players learn how to work in refresh around it so i can happily run around anon without the ol' Refresh Can I have it. Its going to be a nice break from being a party bitch for a while.

[Truece]

Re: 3/10 patch changes to scholar

Any form of refresh would be like giving ice to an eskimo at this point. They have a lot of ways to save MP and get it back.

Exactly, so, why do they only prohibit only one of them?

[Zempten]

Re: 3/10 patch changes to scholar

I haven't done my SCH AF yet, but for those that have. The Enhanced Light/Dark Arts (from body/legs) add +15 to corresponding skill . . . . .. where does that put SCH's magic skill then? at A-? or A?

[Saren]

Re: 3/10 patch changes to scholar

Exactly, so, why do they only prohibit only one of them?

rdm/sch?