3/10 patch changes to scholar

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

Re: 3/10 patch changes to scholar

Wait... do I have to have learned the Tier IV as BLM to use it as SCH or can I just use a scroll while Addendum is active and learn it that way? Would be kinda lame if we had to level BLM just to learn the spell >.>;

SCH got added to the Glamor Jupon. Hurray!

Which would be great if the drop rate wasn't so shitty.

[Murphie]

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For real. Glamor Jupon can bite me.

[Saren]

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Sublimation is 2 HP drain per tick(at level 37), restores an equal amount of HP lost to MP. 25 sec recast, have to use the JA again to cancel it.

Uhm....*drool*

[ItazuraNhomango]

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I think S-E just gave some candies (Recalls) to WHM, then kicked the smiling WHM hard between the legs. ._.

[Zempten]

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Then the WHM could /SCH and keep smiling. . . . abit.

I don't think it's that bad for WHMs. If there's a WHMs, a SCH could always "transform" into a BLM with the new addendums. SCH seems like the job that can change to fit the situation. Or in terms of endgame, they could just be a part of the BLM PT and actually cure them if any AEs hit them like Huriccane Wing or something. Now with the changes to weather spells as well . . .it looks to be a good spot for them to be in an established LS with set WHMs and BLMs...etc. As far as regular exping is concerned . .. I have a feeling that they will be split between the BLM manaburns and main healers in current EXP PTs.
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Wait... do I have to have learned the Tier IV as BLM to use it as SCH or can I just use a scroll while Addendum is active and learn it that way? Would be kinda lame if we had to level BLM just to learn the spell >.>;

I don't think so. The Scrolls should have SCH's names on it. I think the only reason why they mentioned a few on the update was b/c the forgot to put their jobs on it.

[Icemage]

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I think S-E just gave some candies (Recalls) to WHM, then kicked the smiling WHM hard between the legs. ._.

Say what?

Sublimation is the best thing since sliced bread for White Mage. White Mages can basically keep it on 24/7 and never have to worry about it unless they have a pressing need to rest.

Auto-Regen cancels half of the damage, and it now makes Medicine Ring extremely viable (+10 cure potency for a ring slot? Where do I sign up?!).


Icemage

[ItazuraNhomango]

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Then the WHM could /SCH and keep smiling. . . . abit.

WHM pretty much has to use /SCH now. Unless it's a special fight needing ES Sleepga or in places where Escape can save a party, /SCH pretty much rules. Even in "keep running" zones, /SMN no longer have the edge for Auto Refresh. ._.

I don't think it's that bad for WHMs. If there's a WHMs, a SCH could always "transform" into a BLM with the new addendums.

I don't think SCH would run WHM (or BLM) out of the endgame scene, but in exp situations, BLM is already unappreciated--it's unlikely a party will grab a SCH to be the new BLM.

Basically, it's more competition for the healer spot, especially in exp parties. It can be argued that /WHM is able to fix too many status effects already, now SCH main can completely match WHM plus able to toss out AoE -na every minute. First Regen II, now Reraise II, and Raise II, Stona, and Erase--all further closing the gap between the two--a gap which should exist, BTW.


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The new additions also changed the dynamics of support job choices for SCH. Now, /WHM looks pretty unappealing beyond the Stratagem-free Curaga (if the party even needs it), /RDM is only good for Stoneskin and Blink (if those are not already native) beyond MAB I, and /BLM all of sudden looking like a champ for nothing more than MAB II.

The idea of SCH changes its role as it changes support job is getting tossed out of the window. Not a huge issue, I guess, but I rather like the idea that selecting the proper support job makes a critical difference.

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Giving Tier IV nukes to SCH like that is little too much, IMO. Should've made it into a Stratagem to "upgrade" next nuke one level instead.

[Truece]

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The new additions also changed the dynamics of support job choices for SCH. Now, /WHM looks pretty unappealing beyond the Stratagem-free Curaga (if the party even needs it), /RDM is only good for Stoneskin and Blink (if those are not already native) beyond MAB I, and /BLM all of sudden looking like a champ for nothing more than MAB II.

The idea of SCH changes its role as it changes support job is getting tossed out of the window. Not a huge issue, I guess, but I rather like the idea that selecting the proper support job makes a critical difference.

All right! Since no other subs really shine for SCH, we can join the club and just go /NIN ^^

[Zempten]

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While I agree that it is indeed more competition for the "main healer" spot. I don't mind it. If there is a situation where we have extra WHMs and SCHs, there are ways to move SCHs around while WHMs are stuck with their usually duties. Not to mention, why was it that RDMs or SMNs were pushed into a "main healer" scenario in the first place?

Competition has always been around for spots. Welcome WHMs to it.
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All right! Since no other subs really shine for SCH, we can join the club and just go /NIN ^^

You'd be better of subbing BRD instead imo.

[Saren]

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Sublimation is the best thing since sliced bread for White Mage. White Mages can basically keep it on 24/7 and never have to worry about it unless they have a pressing need to rest.

It really is uber, sublimation + nobles (or other refresh body) = mp free rdm refresh.

I am slightly agreeing with Itazura only because whm is now the only back line mp dependant main healer (don't mention blu please) that doesn't get some sort of self mp recovery ability by level 40 but I think thats kept in balance by scholars lack of haste and refresh.

The only thing that I begrudge a little is sch's ability to deal with AoE status removal a lot better than whm can now that strategms are being handed out so much more freely.

[Truece]

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The only thing that I begrudge a little is sch's ability to deal with AoE status removal a lot better than whm can now that strategms are being handed out so much more freely.

I forsee SE splitting up Divine Seal and Divine Veil, and lowering the Recast of DV to 5 mins...

(and the /NIN comment above was obviously a joke. I think that this really allows /RDM to be the sub of choice for party buffing)

[Saren]

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Just managed to get in game and try Sublimation out as 75 whm/sch.

While it's active I lose 1hp/tick and no mp regained. Once I turn it off I get all the mp stored up from while I had sublimation on in one go so it's not a straight refresh which is what I got from reading the update.

Recast to flip it on or off is 30 seconds.

Edit: For DV, here's hoping.

[Truece]

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Have you found a cap on the amount of MP it will restore? I would test it out for myself, if only the download would finish ><

While it may be wishful thinking, I can see leaving it up indefinitely. Then, when MP is seriously low, deactivate it and BAM! Hundreds of MP could potentially be restored!

[Saren]

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I was in Campaign when I logged out so just moving then I will try a few more things.

I can confirm that I have 2 strategm charges so 2 minute recharge from sub *glee*

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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I just logged in and have been running around as SCH, where are Addendum Black and White? I don't see them.