Warrior

[Delhart]

Well, I just started this game and decided to make a samurai. I chose warrior as my starter class because I believe it would most benefit the class as a subjob earlier on. My question is should I become a samurai immediately after reaching 30 or would it be a better idea to wait until a higher level, such as 50 or so?

I figured the latter may be better since parties may be easier to come by with an stronger subjob.

[Mog]

Re: Warrior

Get warrior and thief to 37, then you can take samurai to 75 undeterred.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

Re: Warrior

Lots of people set out decided on a job only to find themselves drawn to other jobs as well. When you get to 30, unlock as many jobs as you can and give them all a spin to see what you really enjoy.

Warrior, at any rate, is a good sub to start from. Lots of jobs make use of WAR as a subjob, though for samurai, you'll also want to consider THF, NIN, DNC and RNG as subjobs too.

THF for boosting WS damage via Sneak Attack.
DNC for soloability.
RNG for Ranged WSes and another means of boosting TP.
NIN for high level WS spam parties, to minimize the need for healing.

[Malacite]

Re: Warrior

There are other sub jobs SAM uses too, like RNG and DRG, but WAR and THF are the main two you'll need.

[Delhart]

Re: Warrior

Alright, I was considering Dark Knight a possibility as well, so I'll just stay the course for now.

A little off topic, but it sounds like you're able to change subjobs outside of your house. Is that true?

[ItazuraNhomango]

Re: Warrior

Alright, I was considering Dark Knight a possibility as well, so I'll just stay the course for now.

/WAR, /THF > /NIN > others; that should be priority for Samurai.


Dark Knight's support job priority is nearly the same:

/WAR, /THF, /SAM > /NIN > others.

I got pretty good use out of DRK/WHM at lower levels, and a friend of mine likes it at higher levels for soloing, but I don't recommend this combo to new players. >_>;

A little off topic, but it sounds like you're able to change subjobs outside of your house. Is that true?

Nomad Moogle.

[Delhart]

Re: Warrior

Alright so I guess I'm set right now. sounds like a DRK/WHM would require a lot of micromanagement.

And wow, I had no idea about the nomad moogle. Thanks.

[Karinya]

Re: Warrior

Lots of people set out decided on a job only to find themselves drawn to other jobs as well. When you get to 30, unlock as many jobs as you can and give them all a spin to see what you really enjoy.

Seconded. Trying out lots of jobs is one of the most fun things about FFXI - you don't have to create whole new characters and lose all your rank, quests, inventory, ex items etc. like you do when making alts in other MMOs.

Warrior, at any rate, is a good sub to start from. Lots of jobs make use of WAR as a subjob, though for samurai, you'll also want to consider THF, NIN, DNC and RNG as subjobs too.

THF for boosting WS damage via Sneak Attack.
DNC for soloability.
RNG for Ranged WSes and another means of boosting TP.
NIN for high level WS spam parties, to minimize the need for healing.

Wouldn't /DNC be better at this now? You still have Seigan if you want it, but bringing sam/dnc healing to a party (if the party actually needs the help) covers more people than just yourself.

Also, WAR isn't just a sub - you may find yourself falling in love with those huge freaking axes and their insanely good WS.

[Delhart]

Re: Warrior

Also, WAR isn't just a sub - you may find yourself falling in love with those huge freaking axes and their insanely good WS.

Maybe, that sure would be convenient. I've just never considered myself an axe guy, but you never know.

Maybe I'll try a blue mage too.

Thanks for the help everyone, seriously.

[Celeal]

Re: Warrior

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Wouldn't /DNC be better at this now? You still have Seigan if you want it, but bringing sam/dnc healing to a party (if the party actually needs the help) covers more people than just yourself.
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I had tried a few level 70+ exp/merit parties with SAM/DNC. IMHO, instead of *better*, it is just *different*: The Steps and Waltz TP's cost is too high for covering both curing and WS-ing --- I could only perform either one functional, but not both at once. When using WS frequency, there aren't much TP left for Waltz, especially spike hate after WS. When spend a lot of Waltz on others, there aren't much chance for WS. Unlike DD/NIN using shadows to go past the hate threshold and increase damage output, DD/DNC's self Waltz generate more hate on himself.. (great for tanking... but for TP-burn it is very situational)

The middle-ground is Drain Samba II, which is very economically for SAM/DNC in TP-burns, w/o SCH using AoE enspell or the mob is not undead.

P.S. For solo, quest, campaign, i give SAM/DNC two thumbs-up.

[Malacite]

Re: Warrior

SAM/DNC with a Soboro is so much fun.

[Silent Howler]

Re: Warrior

Lots of people set out decided on a job only to find themselves drawn to other jobs as well.

{True Strike}. Before I got the game the two jobs I was the most interested in were Ranger and Summoner. Summoner was the first one I aimed for and took White Mage to level 30 so I could unlock the job. I got Summoner to 24 and.... stopped. I refused to go any further until I obtained the six elemental avatars. I started looking at the possibility of doing to solo fights as SMN/BLU instead of SMN/WHM, so I unlocked Blue Mage next.

My interest in Aht Urhgan must have grown after that because my choice to level Puppetmaster was seemingly random, and it just happened to become my main job. I didn't stick with Puppetmaster all the way though. I messed around with a lot of job. My previous interest in Ranger was replaced by Corsair, which has become my second main job. There is some correlation between Puppetmaster and Corsair in relation to Summoner and Ranger. Maybe that's why I don't know what my third main job could be, since I only had two jobs in scope to begin with and found the "versions" of those that fit for me.

To OP:
So just experiment and see what you like. It sounds like you are leaning toward damage dealing melee jobs, so Warrior probably is a good first choice. You can go ahead and try out Samurai at 30. No one says you can't. Personally I'm not the type that uses the rigid system of taking all sub jobs to level 37 before taking a main to 75, then repeat the process on a second job. Just be aware of the other sub job options you may need before you get too high and get them covered.

Looking back at your question... I'm a bit confused on what you're trying to say. It sounds like you're wondering if you should take Warrior to level 50 before leveling Samurai so it will make a stronger sub job? The maximum level for your sub job is 37, respectively half the level of your main. You won't gain any abilities from your sub job beyond that level.

[Delhart]

Re: Warrior

Looking back at your question... I'm a bit confused on what you're trying to say. It sounds like you're wondering if you should take Warrior to level 50 before leveling Samurai so it will make a stronger sub job? The maximum level for your sub job is 37, respectively half the level of your main. You won't gain any abilities from your sub job beyond that level.

Oh, so maximum subjob level is 37? Yeah, I honestly had no idea... Yeah I thought I read somewhere that each increment of 10 brought something new to the table but I probably just imagined it.

[Ellipses]

Re: Warrior

Your subjob is capped at half the level of your current main job. You can level WAR as far as you like, but when it's set as your subjob, it will be capped at (at most) 37, because 75 / 2 = 37 (it's rounded down). At level 5, your subjob is level 2, at 20 it's 10, etc. etc.

[Delhart]

Re: Warrior

Well I'm glad I heard that sooner than later.