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  • #46
    Re: 7 WS Skillchain (New SAM WS Chains)

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    Originally posted by Sabaron View Post
    I don't have a relic weapon so I don't know if you can do it more than once.
    I've read somewhere that "Continuing" Lvl3 Skillchains from Relic Weaponskills can only be done once.
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    • #47
      Re: 7 WS Skillchain (New SAM WS Chains)

      Pretty sure it's on the wiki somewhere.
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      • #48
        Re: 7 WS Skillchain (New SAM WS Chains)

        Honestly, I don't see a huge change in the way other classes SC unless MBs and SC's have been drastically changed. I see this as a significant change to Sams, Blus, and maybe the occasional Mnk or Drk.
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        • #49
          Re: 7 WS Skillchain (New SAM WS Chains)

          Originally posted by Tomato_Kai View Post
          Honestly, I don't see a huge change in the way other classes SC unless MBs and SC's have been drastically changed. I see this as a significant change to Sams, Blus, and maybe the occasional Mnk or Drk.

          Resistance to SC damage has been changed. Therefore, it is possible that SE has made tossing an SC more valuable than saving the extra 20% TP that you waste while waiting for an SC partner to build TP. It also gives all SAMs a free Self-SC (Just like BLU already has) every 5 minutes.

          Now all we need is a screen shot of a log and a nice little video. I'm hoping for adequate damage on the ramp and a beautiful 225% Light/Darkness at the end.
          Last edited by Sabaron; 03-11-2008, 09:29 AM.

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          • #50
            Re: 7 WS Skillchain (New SAM WS Chains)

            Originally posted by Sabaron View Post
            You can't, but the Relic Weapon Skills like Tachi: Kaiten from Amanomurakumo have a special effect called "Continuing Light" or "Continuing Darkness" that allows them to create a level 3 Skillchain of the same type off of an already existing Level 3 skill chain. I don't have a relic weapon so I don't know if you can do it more than once. Of course, if you could we'd have already seen 5-chains of it.
            All Weapon Skill Attributes can be used to create a Skillchain except Level 3 attributes from a Relic Weapons Weapon Skill (e.g. Scourge). These powerful Weapon Skills may be used to create a Level 3 Skillchain by immediately following a Level 3 Weapon Skill attribute (either from a Lv.2 created Skillchain or another Relic Weapon), however no futher Skillchain may be created from the subsequent Skillchain.
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            • #51
              Re: 7 WS Skillchain (New SAM WS Chains)

              I can't do pics/vid b/c I'm on 360, but we're definitely going to put a 6, possibly 7-WS SC to the test tomorrow night in Nyzul Isle, we have 2 SAMs in our static so the 6 is automatic barring Khimaira being a jerk w/ Mist, 200 TP > JA > WS WS > Wing > WS for each SAM, possibly each one getting a Meditate in as well.

              How long does it take for Meditate to get you to 100 TP?
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              • #52
                Re: 7 WS Skillchain (New SAM WS Chains)

                Without AF hat, 20 TP per *tick*. I am not sure the exact time per tick.
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                • #53
                  Re: 7 WS Skillchain (New SAM WS Chains)

                  15 seconds for 100 tp, or 20tp/3sec. Assuming that it works as I recall, and that my recollection is infact, valid.
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                  • #54
                    Re: 7 WS Skillchain (New SAM WS Chains)

                    That might be cutting it too close for a 7th, for now I'll probably ask them to try:

                    SAM1: Sekkowhatever > Kasha > Jinpu > Wing > Gekko
                    into
                    SAM2: Sekkowhatever > Yuki > Gekko > Kasha

                    Or the same thing, but for Darkness, not that MB matters b/c my RDM nukes don't do crap against the AU HNMs, but can have the BLU try to MB Eyes on Me or something. At any rate I'll get the #'s of the log or have one of the SAMs screencap it and post the damage so we can see how the new SC resists look on a 6-WS chain vs. a relatively difficult mob.
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                    • #55
                      Re: 7 WS Skillchain (New SAM WS Chains)

                      Truth be told, I'd like to see the effectiveness of a smaller WS set.

                      200 tp > Sekkanoki > Jinpu > Meditate > (before first tic) Kasha > Jump/HighJump > Gekko.

                      This will produce two SC, Fragmentation and then Darkness by order. Yes, you can do a light SC, but without Jinpu being included somewhere, I don't see it being possible to accumulate enough TP without items or 2hr. Still, that is pretty ridiculous, a self started tier 3 sc every 5 minutes? Good lawd!

                      Also: Sams are gonna have to be the WS Nazi's of the parties from now on. If I were a sam in a smaller group, I'd be pissed if someone messed up my beautiful macro chain. XD
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                      • #56
                        Re: 7 WS Skillchain (New SAM WS Chains)

                        Originally posted by Tomato_Kai View Post
                        but without Jinpu being included somewhere, I don't see it being possible to accumulate enough TP without items or 2hr
                        What kind of crap SAM are you that you can't get 1% more TP? Or did you forget multi-hit WS only give 1 TP for each hit after the 1st?

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                        • #57
                          Re: 7 WS Skillchain (New SAM WS Chains)

                          Originally posted by Malacite View Post
                          What kind of crap SAM are you that you can't get 1% more TP? Or did you forget multi-hit WS only give 1 TP for each hit after the 1st?

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                          TBH, you can convey the same idea with courtesy.

                          I am not trying to offend you, but there is an increase of enmity on this forum since the March 10th updates
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                          • #58
                            Re: 7 WS Skillchain (New SAM WS Chains)

                            Hmm.. This thread seems to have picked up some negative energy for no apparent reason...

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                            Just say "Om..."

                            and then think about 3-WS Chains with Meditate and Sekkanoki.

                            and then make a video...and capture some logs...

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                            • #59
                              Re: 7 WS Skillchain (New SAM WS Chains)

                              Originally posted by Celeal View Post
                              TBH, you can convey the same idea with courtesy.

                              I am not trying to offend you, but there is an increase of enmity on this forum since the March 10th updates
                              Seriously, people just LOVE to bitch >.>

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                              • #60
                                Re: 7 WS Skillchain (New SAM WS Chains)

                                you're right. Sorry.

                                @_ @ I got called into work 3 hours early today. I'm just stressed.
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